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01-18-2009, 08:54 AM
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How to convert any car monitor to touchscreen for pc including rca, s-video
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A SCREEN THAT WANT TO USE AS A TOUCHSCREEN FOR PC USAGE, THAT HAS NO USB CONNECTION.
THIS IS A SIMPLE $50 FIX FOR THOSE:
*WHO OWN A CAR STEREO THAT IS TOUCHSCREEN EQUIPPED FOR THE STEREO ONLY (AVIC SERIES OTHERS ALIKE)
* WHO OWN A MONITOR THAT HAS NO TOUCH FUNCTIONS AND ONLY HAS RCA INPUTS (MOST HEADREST MONITOR)
THIS IS A USB CONTROLLED $40 TOUCHSCREEN CONVERSION KIT 7", THEY MAKE ANY SIZE OVERLAY DESIRED, JUST CHECK EBAY, SIMPLY REMOVE OLD TOUCH PANEL AND REPLACE. THE OVERRLAY IS IN FRONT OF THE LCD PANEL.. IT'S A SEPERATE UNIT.
HERE IS THE CONNECTION PINS TO CONVERT S-VIDEO TO RCA. SIMPLY CUT OLD S-VIDEO CORD AND WIRE AS SEEN IN THIS DIAGRAM, USING A DISC CAPACITOR NEAR OR AROUND THE pF it suggests.
any questions feel free.
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01-18-2009, 11:04 AM
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hahaha looks like you beat me to it. I just ordered myself a touchscreen overlay from ebay for this exact reason /
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01-18-2009, 11:17 AM
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Raw Wave
Join Date: Sep 2006
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This is something i been thinking of doing for my dual monitor setup; right now i can setup MPC to play a movie then move it (using windows extended desktop) to the back for the kids to watch. I want them to be able to control MPC at will from the back also.
I thought it was as simple as getting a touch overlay (as you discribed) with a USB controller and intall it to one of the monitors in the back. Since the touchkit driver supports multiple monitors, i didn't think there would be a problem with a second USB controller.
I guess my question is, what does S-video/RCA inputs have to do with it?
I'm sure i'm missing something!
P.S. (looking at your AVATAR) I'll put my 302 V8 up against anything you have - except a Mustang, but wait - that's a Ford too!.
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01-18-2009, 11:43 AM
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well the rca and s-video is for those that bought the screens without the vga nothing to do with the touchscreen function. So you can use headrest monitor in back for touchscreens also. I was browsing the new threads and seen many people confuse the difference from s-video and RCA so I thought I would clear up the confusion. This will allow people to buy a set of headrest monitor on ebay for 75 and for another 80 (2 overlay's) have 2 more 7" touch panels in rear.. the connection for s-video is soley for those whom don't want to spend 300-500 on VGA touchscreens so this shows how to convert the standard RCA composite video to connect to the laptop with s-video with virtually no money. The disc capacitor in diagram can vary as it's soley for the flicker if mind serves right correctly.. and are very common in any electronic device so anything broken around in garage or attic can be used to get it. I run my front lilitput VGA as it's super sharp but the other tv's are all RCA with the touch overlay so anyone can scroll or change the screens. This thread is 2 problems solved..
1. I never seen any RCA or S-video type monitors with touch function, unless there the Car DVD players with input for video but no control for PC. Some Poeple bought car monitor with touch panels that have no VGA input only RCA like the AVIC or whatever Stereo's but the touch panel only works for the radio there's no usb control to connect to PC
So now they can remove the touch panel assembly and replace with one thats USB put the original stereo back together and then they have a USB controlled touch panel to connect to PC on there AVIC or similar stereo's or headrest. Hope this Helps
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01-18-2009, 11:52 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrdeep2001 
hahaha looks like you beat me to it. I just ordered myself a touchscreen overlay from ebay for this exact reason / 
Im cheap.. I don't see the sense in buying multiple touchscreens. I found 2 headrest on ebay for 75 and another 80 for the overlays and created 2 7" monitors for the 1/2 price of 1. 7" lilliput. Now I know most people will say the quality sucks.. well for those who would say that... your right!!!....if I was browsing interent on them or on desktop... but since I only use them for movies.. or music inside the frontend thats resolution is 800x600 then everything looks perfect. the skins are made clear and bold and big so theres no small text.. Well others might say what about the "wash out look" or "milky" I simply go to my display options and adjust contrast sharpness and brighness. I swear you wont tell the difference inside the frontend.. but yes if you wanted to use as a desktop then it would suck as the text on that is made much smaller scale than on any Skin's Iv'e seen so it would be hard to read.
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01-18-2009, 12:03 PM
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P.S. (looking at your AVATAR) I'll put my 302 V8 up against anything you have - except a Mustang, but wait - that's a Ford too!.  [/QUOTE]
 I'll let you think what you want on that level. But Im always up to a race for titles now and then, so whenever your In Western NY give me a shout. Lancaster Speedway. I'll be the one Tuesday nights July-Sep in the carbon Fibre Blue Sebring Coupe $65 to enter. But we can arrange a private race
PS dont forget the CarPC
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01-18-2009, 01:01 PM
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Location: Boston
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Quote: Originally Posted by jessekilner 
I never seen any RCA or S-video type monitors with touch function, unless there the Car DVD players with input for video but no control for PC. Some Poeple bought car monitor with touch panels that have no VGA input only RCA like the AVIC or whatever Stereo's but the touch panel only works for the radio there's no usb control to connect to PC
So now they can remove the touch panel assembly and replace with one thats USB put the original stereo back together and then they have a USB controlled touch panel to connect to PC on there AVIC or similar stereo's
if you replaced the stock touchscreen assembly from a touchscreen controlled headunit like an AVIC, then you remove the headunit's primary input/control source. any function that doesn't have a physical hardware button/knob to control it would be unusable/non-controllable. this would essentially render the headunit useless for anything other than PC display/control (kind of defeats the purpose of buying a touchscreen headunit in the first place  )
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01-18-2009, 01:19 PM
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Raw Wave
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: War-Town, GA.
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Quote: Originally Posted by FusionFanatic 
if you replaced the stock touchscreen assembly from a touchscreen controlled headunit like an AVIC, then you remove the headunit's primary input/control source. any function that doesn't have a physical hardware button/knob to control it would be unusable/non-controllable. this would essentially render the headunit useless for anything other than PC display/control (kind of defeats the purpose of buying a touchscreen headunit in the first place  )
Agree - I think the way OP presented it is not what he intended; it's kinda confusing and missleading - dipite his best intentions!
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01-18-2009, 01:25 PM
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it would render the unit as a source for audio and video with interface for pc. Im not telling people to buy them Im simply showing how if they have it how to do it. There's several people with this problem of wanting carPC's but bought the Avic or whatever prior to knowing about the carPC stuff. This would enable them to use it. Can you think of a feature those units do that the PC frontends can't.. So whats there to lose? Set all the audio controls to medium or level then volume to 70%(pre-clipping) The PC has more features 10 band Eq, Divx playback. yadda, yadda..the audio volume is controlled through the PC and the stereo simply amplifies the input from that. Anything else you can think of why this would'nt work???
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01-18-2009, 02:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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If you could find a way of getting one of these screens to work on the AVIC (or whatever) intead of the original TS, then you could put a two way swict between the two and have the TS control both. All depends on whether these TS's are compatible or can be made compatible with the ICE Headunits.
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01-18-2009, 02:24 PM
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Location: Boston
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Quote: Originally Posted by jessekilner 
Anything else you can think of why this would'nt work???
nobody ever said that it wouldn't work. everything you wrote in your first post is correct, and you did a nice job with your write up (except for your excessive use of CAPS  ). but you left out an important fact; that doing that will turn their expensive DVD/NAV headunit (you specifically referenced the Pioneer AVIC series) into the equivilent of a $50 low-resolution composite monitor.
composite video (RCA) is good for video, but pretty much useless for carPC's. anybody that owns a touchscreen headunit that wants a carPC would be better off selling it on eBay/craigslist and using that money to buy a VGA monitor.
how-to guides like this are directed at newbies, who in this case might read it and think that they can buy a $50 monitor and a $25 touchscreen kit off eBay and have a nice touchscreen monitor for their carPC. but we both know that it's not that simple. I wasn't trying to start an argument with you, insult you, or discredit your post; I simply added some important information to help out the newbies that may have otherwise gotten false hope from your OP.
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01-18-2009, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Darwin, Australia
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I think your all on the wrong level, Or maybe writing this when your all half a sleep.
He was simply showing how your kids in the back of the car can have control over selecting a movie or songs with making the low res screen a touch screen.
Yes ideally you would want vga screens allround, But mostly in the back head rest are used for video games or entertainment. Not web browsing/writing documents/emails.
So i would easily have the VGA touchscreen in the centre console and have two low res touch enabled screens in the head rest. But this can work if you plan on having multple screens. Ones with a set use, Say a simple dual screen built into the instrument cluster to replace the old analogue dials.
But this all comes down todo doing your own software/skins to make the colors match the screen.
Overall i think this is a great little kit, It will have many uses in and outside of the car.
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01-18-2009, 08:08 PM
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well it surely looks quite nice in my back seats and I would place a buffalo nickle that you could'nt tell the difference of "quality" unless you exited to the desktop. I sincerly appreciate the feedback. I mentioned the Avic because thats the only model I know off hand. but it would'nt reuin it as it's competly reversable. This was more targeted towards the s-video headrest setup though only gave Avic as a possible soltion for the gentlmen that had one who wanted touch panel for PC.
You guys are right, it would be better to sell that $700 AVIc and buy a VGA monitor but I would argue all month on how this will save money for the backseats. or for those people that have a headrest monitor with RCA inputs only who want to "convert to touch and connect to PC with S-Video out only. I am horrible at writing instructions or descibing things so maybe someone can clear up the confusion. This is perfect for Movie's and Nav or pretty much any front end with 800x600 it looks fine I honestly would'nt recommend it if it looked horrible. try it on your home tv. Like I said it looks great in front end not on desktop as desktop is small text and icon's. The Skins specifically DFX are very clear easily seen without small text.
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01-19-2009, 09:49 AM
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Thanks for the info>>>>
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01-19-2009, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Now if only my Alpine IVA-D310 would do all of this....
But alas I am better off selling it on Ebay and just buying a VGA touch screen in the first place.
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