Sunlight-Readable Monitor for Fishing Boat - Page 3

marcram · 07-07-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by trader007

marcram- the eby701 comes with a similar stand, although its not enclosed/waterproof it does allow for quick removal and install (just push a button on back, and it pops off its mount). but that one does look nice as it would keep moisture out of the screen.

to seal the buttons, i wonder if you could get some clear heatshrink tubing, like 5" stuff and just cut it like at a 2" width... then wrap it around the end of the screen over the buttons and shrink her down.

that would probably work. I think if I put tape over the front and then spray plasti-dip (spray electrical tape rubber) from the inside, this will work best. As long as the remote sensor is viewable, the remote should be able to perform operation, although this won't be required often if at all.

trader007 · 07-07-2009, 07:42 PM

that clip that's included is far stronger then i ever gave it credit for. it looks cheap, but its actually very well designed. of course i wouldnt use the advesive stick on like it has but screwed down i cant imagine it ever breaking/falling off. but it doesnt apply to you since you need an enclosed mount.

as far as what youre saying with the plastidip spray... what exactly do you mean? open up the screen and spray the backside of the buttons to hopefully keep out the water? it might work... might work perfectly... really depends how the buttons themselves are desinged back there, you wouldnt want the button to rub on anything when you push it in because it would eventually open up a gap... but thinking more about it, it might be a far better idea then my heatshrink tubing.

trader007 · 07-07-2009, 07:45 PM

also, the screen itself (well, my 2008 made, 2009 labeled "transflective" eby701 anyway) really never even gets warm. i dont know how it would fair in a totally sealed enclosure, but if any screen would be ok with it im betting this one is. my cell phone puts off tons more heat then this screen does for example.... im wondering if you could actually seal up the inside like you said with the buttons, but do it for the whole screen.

marcram · 07-07-2009, 07:54 PM

this clip is much stronger than Xenarc one. I'll see about mounting options, but I think permanently keeping it in the enclosure would work best... With a cover for when it is left alone.

Since I don't need the buttons, I can seal the holes shut with that dip spray. The tape on the front would keep the spray level and in my Xenarc, the buttons could be removed, although left unfunctional.

I thought about sealing the whole back of the screen, but I'd like to have access to the electronics to test for corrosion every once in a while. Also, this heat will be able to dissipate down through the whole and into the center console. I'm now most concerned about determining if I need the silicone foam gasket between the touchscreen and the front bezel, and how I will attach the screen to the enclosure. I need a waterproof seal, but don't want to glue the screen down to the enclosure. Maybe glue on some fastners on the inside to keep the screen in place. Thanks for your responses.

trader007 · 07-07-2009, 11:23 PM

you know what i would do... im not completely sure if this is safe for our screens, but get some of that protector material (bestskinsever.com) and apply that first, and then just run a thin small bead of clear silicone around the seam of the screen/bezel on the outside. the silicone would always peel right off the bezel if you need to. and the bestskins protector would keep your lcd from ever becoming in danger.

i want to put a bestskinsever on my lcd anyway, they are fantastic to keep away any and all scratches. i just dont know for sure yet if the adhesive on them would interfere with whatever coating we have on our screens (doubt it, but would sure hate to be wrong)

theonlykid · 07-07-2009, 11:38 PM

When using a transflective screen you dont want to cover the actual touch panel with anything. The screens are designed to reduce the glare and if you cover the screen with any kind of film you are adding a reflective surface back to the monitor will reduce the quality of the picture by making it harder to see

trader007 · 07-08-2009, 12:34 AM

that makes sense. its a bummer though because im always terrified of the screen getting scratches on it... it does have a very hard coating already on it though, no scratches visable yet and it has been roughed up plenty.

theonlykid · 07-08-2009, 11:28 AM

Believe it or not one of the easiest ways to scratch the touch panel is by cleaning it improperly. You should treat the panel like a pair of glasses. Buy a cleaning cloth and glass cleaner that is formulated for AR coatings.

trader007 · 07-08-2009, 12:51 PM

so stop using the windex ive already used once on it (i know.. i know.. i was being lazy...)

marcram · 07-08-2009, 10:18 PM

I haven't been able to take the monitor outside yet, but it is in fact possible to clamp the clip-on monitor holder with a ram-mount. Here are some pictures. It is extremely sturdy this way, so I am wondering if I should use it like this taking it on and off the boat each time I use it (this will make waterproofing it unnecessary) or if I should install it in the NavPod and leave it on the boat at all times.

Thoughts? Do you all think the screen/touchscreen will be affected at all by humid air? I could also make a cover for it out of gore-tex or some rubber material.

trader007 · 07-09-2009, 01:20 PM

it really depends on how secure your boat is when not in use.... but also, i have been using mine as a second monitor for tv watching while i do other things like games or internet, you might find more use for it if you are able to take it out of the boat when you want. also would depend on how much you use your boat... if its only once a month or so then i would take the monitor out each time.

marcram · 07-09-2009, 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by trader007

it really depends on how secure your boat is when not in use.... but also, i have been using mine as a second monitor for tv watching while i do other things like games or internet, you might find more use for it if you are able to take it out of the boat when you want. also would depend on how much you use your boat... if its only once a month or so then i would take the monitor out each time.

Thanks for your input. I've decided to use the navpod, but have made waterproof connectors so that I can take the front-panel and screen with me and leave behind protected, corrosion-resistant connectors. The boat is on a lift at our beach house that we are at once a week. So, this way it will be semi-permanent.

marcram · 07-13-2009, 12:07 AM

So, the Mo Co So transflective monitor ended up working out VERY well. It is a huge improvement from my Xenarc 705, which isn't surprising considering that one is not meant to resist sunlight. It is much more of a matte look to the screen, which is fine as long as the glare is reduced. By changing the contrast and brighness values when in very bright sunlight, you can't see any difference in the picture. To me, this is proof that the backlight is dominated from the ambient sunlight light and not the backlight. I am very happy with this product!! Although I can't compare the performance to the one available in mp3car forum, I can assure you that Mo Co So sells a quality product that will be great in environments that do have a lot of sunlight!!

I ended up sealing the buttons to the bezel with gap-filling super glue. I cutout the NavPod and secured the lilliput bezel to the NavPod with the glue and silicone. I have the controller board velcroed to the back of the lcd circuit and there weren't any issues. I will secure it better after I get the silicone-foam sheet that will serve as a waterproof gasket seal. Here are some pics. Note that the monitor pics were taken in the early evening and not in the direct sunlight. I didn't have my camera with me so had to use my mom's Iphone. Pics aren't half bad though.

marcram · 07-13-2009, 12:12 AM

Temporary protection from the elements.

trader007 · 07-13-2009, 01:36 PM

looks great. i dont see there being any problems. maybe you can now use google earth to plot out all your fishing holes, and keep logs of all your catches

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