where to find 7" lilliput at lower cost? - Page 2

barb3tta · 02-10-2004, 08:06 AM

I think we(italians)'ll make a group order by ourselves...
I sent a mail to sales@lilliput.cn , I'm waiting for news....
Maybe tonight someone in Chinna will answer ny questions!!!

bye!

thorolf15 · 02-10-2004, 08:09 AM

Great, I might try sending him an email, actually I live not too far from Italy

I live in Geneva (Schwitzerland) Thx for the mail adress!

masch · 02-10-2004, 11:56 PM

So should I start a thread on a group buy or do you wanna do the group buy yourselves?

PHiLiSO · 02-11-2004, 12:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by masch

So should I start a thread on a group buy or do you wanna do the group buy yourselves?

group buy. im in.

barb3tta · 02-11-2004, 01:28 PM

err, I've to add 20% of tax to the price of extreme audio.... so it cost me more than the one at cartft... if you can obtain it for less than 299euro (shipping and taxes included), I'll join the group buy!

bye!

masch · 02-12-2004, 03:33 AM

okay, I will email China about this and as soon as I get the answer I'll post the group buy.

Barb, perhaps you can call your customs department and ask them what the 20% tax is for, like is it for computer parts or car parts, how do they calculate it and whether it depends on the country of origin.

curtkay · 02-12-2004, 03:56 AM

Two questions,

Does digitalww carry these?

How do these handle low light?

I think I might be in the group buy.. depends on the final cost.

-Kay

NJay · 02-12-2004, 05:51 AM

In the UK

If the Item is bought from another European Union Country the VAT Rate is applicable to the country of origin and NO customs charge. I.e CarTFT's price in Euro's for the Lilliput is exactly what I'd end up paying as it already includes his country's VAT rate. I believe this is why the Non-Eu prices for US customers is lower. I believe paying for VAT in country of origin is the same for ALL EU countries?

If I bought the screen from DigitalWW or Electronicar, then the price should be

price of item * customs Duty rate (about 4% for TV's, 0% for computer screens) = A
Then (Price A + Delivery charges) * VAT rate (currently 17.5%)

So if hit with both customs and VAT then extra is about 19% on top of the price paid to digitalww or Electronicar. But it really depends on what customs decide to do. Had anything from no extra charges right up to changing the $ to a £ and adding vat, duty and customes handling charge to it

Hence this is why Electronicar try and help by valuing the lilliput at £22 and said it was a computer screen so as to not attract 4% customs duty. Ended up paying No customs duty (0% for Computer screen) and only VAT on £22 declared value + delivery charge so total cost buying mine touchscreen from electronicarfor was £185 to electronicar and £24 to Postal Service.

HTH

barb3tta · 02-12-2004, 06:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NJay

In the UK

If the Item is bought from another European Union Country the VAT Rate is applicable to the country of origin and NO customs charge. I.e CarTFT's price in Euro's for the Lilliput is exactly what I'd end up paying as it already includes his country's VAT rate. I believe this is why the Non-Eu prices for US customers is lower. I believe paying for VAT in country of origin is the same for ALL EU countries?

If I bought the screen from DigitalWW or Electronicar, then the price should be

price of item * customs Duty rate (about 4% for TV's, 0% for computer screens) = A
Then (Price A + Delivery charges) * VAT rate (currently 17.5%)

So if hit with both customs and VAT then extra is about 19% on top of the price paid to digitalww or Electronicar. But it really depends on what customs decide to do. Had anything from no extra charges right up to changing the $ to a £ and adding vat, duty and customes handling charge to it

Hence this is why Electronicar try and help by valuing the lilliput at £22 and said it was a computer screen so as to not attract 4% customs duty. Ended up paying No customs duty (0% for Computer screen) and only VAT on £22 declared value + delivery charge so total cost buying mine touchscreen from electronicarfor was £185 to electronicar and £24 to Postal Service.

HTH

Exactly... in Italy VAT (we called it IVA, italian translaction do Value Added Tax is Imposta sul Valore Aggiunto) is 20%....
Maybe if extreme audio or lilliput send me the tft as "gift", I can avoid to pay VAT... but I'm not sure...

bye

masch · 02-12-2004, 07:34 PM

I think I pretty much understand the tax structure in EU now.

Anyway, I hope to get USD$240 per unit, maybe charge you guys USD$245 per unit if you dont mind for admin purposes.

So USD$245+USD$35(estimated shipping costs, could be lower)=USD$280

Include VAT : USD$280x1.20 = USD336
Exchange Rate : USD 336 * 0.7807 = EU$262.31

It still sounds expensive. Maybe I can try to get a lower discount.
I know if we have a lot of signups we can try for lower.

Is the estimated pricing better than what you can get from Ebay or outside? If it is, I'll start the thread going once I get the exact quote from Lilliput

masch · 02-12-2004, 07:35 PM

And also, can we cheat VAT by me declaring the units at a lower price of EU$100 or something? That 20% is quite expensive.. I feel for you EU folks =P

PORTUGAL · 02-13-2004, 04:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by masch

And also, can we cheat VAT by me declaring the units at a lower price of EU$100 or something? That 20% is quite expensive.. I feel for you EU folks =P

You can do that.
You can get a Liliput dirctly from the suplier from 195 us$ plus shipping.