Sponsored links

Go Back   MP3Car.com > Mp3Car Technical > LCD/Display


Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-14-2004, 08:13 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 47
Danneman is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Fried my Lilly ?

Wow, that was fast - got my Lilliput 7-inch touchscreen today, and used an AC/DC Adapter as described here ( http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/lcd-display/27897-ac-dc-adaptor-fit-lilliput.html ) to power it.

Worked fine for half an hour or so, and then it just went black. No drama, no smoke, no nothing - just shut off. Now I cant get it to work again.

Any ideas as to where I should begin debugging the screen?
Danneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

Old 06-14-2004, 08:32 PM   #2
Jesus Freak
 
antimatter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,273
antimatter is on a distinguished road
did you try plugging it in to the AC power adapter that it came with to determineif it was the screen or not.
__________________
-Jesus- King of Kings Lord of Lords
antimatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 08:43 PM   #3
Raw Wave
 
rando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 1,969
rando is on a distinguished road
Try another adapter. You need one that can supply ~800mA or more at 12V. You can go as high as 12.6V to get a slightly brighter screen but I wouldn't risk going higher. If your regulator was using a higher voltate, you may have blow your Lilliput. If you regulator was rated at under 800mA, you may have blown your regulator.

Either way, the easiest thing to do is test it with the OEM AC adapter.
__________________
2004 4runner
rando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 08:47 PM   #4
Phat Boy
 
Pudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,007
Pudge is on a distinguished road
My egg regulates @ ~12.8. The screen is kind of wavy, thought it was dirty power. Too much? Should I hook up to my ITPS/PW-70?
__________________
My Carputer! (More Car Pics at the end)
2 Kicker Comp 10"
Epia M-9000, 256 MB DDR, 120 Gig HD
Lilliput 7" VGA Touchscreen
Check it out?!
Pudge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 09:26 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 47
Danneman is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the replies,

Im getting an adapter for the wallsocket first thing tomorrow (its an american wallsocket type thats delivered with the lilli, right?) and try it out.

Quote: Originally Posted by rando
Try another adapter. You need one that can supply ~800mA or more at 12V. You can go as high as 12.6V to get a slightly brighter screen but I wouldn't risk going higher. If your regulator was using a higher voltate, you may have blow your Lilliput. If you regulator was rated at under 800mA, you may have blown your regulator.

The adapter outputs 12 V, and 500mA. But I dont understand how I can fry something (the regulator) by giving it too LITTLE current?
Where is the regulator, and is there any way to fix it?

Last edited by Danneman; 06-14-2004 at 09:40 PM.
Danneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 09:42 PM   #6
Maximum Bitrate
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 621
masch
try the two adapters that came with the lilliput

first the AC adapter
secondly the car adapter (egg)
__________________
New Lilliput EBY701 For Sale http://www.nusantech.com/index.asp?c...at=TOUCHSCREEN
SiRF3 Bluetooth GPS http://www.nusantech.com/index.asp?cat=GPS
masch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 10:07 PM   #7
Raw Wave
 
rando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 1,969
rando is on a distinguished road
Quote: Originally Posted by Danneman
Thanks for the replies,

Im getting an adapter for the wallsocket first thing tomorrow (its an american wallsocket type thats delivered with the lilli, right?) and try it out.



The adapter outputs 12 V, and 500mA. But I dont understand how I can fry something (the regulator) by giving it too LITTLE current?
Where is the regulator, and is there any way to fix it?

regulator = wallsocket adapter = dc-dc psu = whatever you were using. If it isn't designed with overload protection, you can fry it by hooking up a device that trys to pull more current than it can supply. The Lilliput needs ~800mA. The 500mA adapter you are ordering is underrated for the job. It may or may not power your screen and then may or may not survive. Order the correct adapter.
__________________
2004 4runner
rando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 10:20 PM   #8
Phat Boy
 
Pudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,007
Pudge is on a distinguished road
Right,basically what rando's saying is that it's not fried, but may not work because it is simply not recieving enough current.
__________________
My Carputer! (More Car Pics at the end)
2 Kicker Comp 10"
Epia M-9000, 256 MB DDR, 120 Gig HD
Lilliput 7" VGA Touchscreen
Check it out?!
Pudge is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Old 06-15-2004, 12:06 AM   #9
Raw Wave
 
rando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 1,969
rando is on a distinguished road
Right ... maybe. Your LCD may or may not be fine. I don't see how anything in the scenario you described could have damaged your Lilliput. It IS possible that you damaged the regulator you were using to power the Lilliupt. It's also possible that if you are using an underpowered regulator that it simply won't work or may work only intermittently.

The only way to to test your LCD is to get a good power source (i.e. a regulator that matches or betters the requirements of the Lilliput; 800mA @ 12V). For instance, you could use a +12v output from an AT or ATX power
supply to test it.
__________________
2004 4runner
rando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2004, 07:40 AM   #10
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 47
Danneman is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the explanation - makes perfect sense now. Come to think of it, the regulator WAS very hot when it was feeding the lilliput, whereas the lilliput wasnt.

Alright, Im off getting an american-to-swedish walladapter. Thanks again for the help
Danneman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2004, 12:38 PM   #11
FLAC
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 1,134
MikeH is on a distinguished road
Rando,

My Lilly draws about 550mA when fully on (see this page). Have you measured the 800mA? Perhaps you have a different model.
__________________
MikeH
MikeH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2004, 01:12 PM   #12
Raw Wave
 
rando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 1,969
rando is on a distinguished road
I purposely cited a conservative number. IIRC, the oem egg or wall adapter is rated around 700-800 mA. I haven't taken measurements of the actual Lilli power draw. I know for sure there are at least a couple different Lilli versions internally. Each could have slightly different power requirements.
__________________
2004 4runner
rando is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fried Inverter due to reversing polarity??? wonderworm Power Supplies 4 03-24-2004 01:46 PM
Wanna power this laptop since I fried my system today. MikeHunt79 Power Supplies 6 07-07-2003 12:24 PM
Rats, I fried my keyboard port. waltsongs General Hardware Discussion 7 04-04-2002 08:24 AM
I think I fried the lcd controller on my pcm-5862 crazyshaxs General Hardware Discussion 1 03-05-2002 04:07 PM
Telling if you've fried your display???? MP3IAN by Ian Gregory LCD/Display 7 02-07-2002 05:40 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright © 1999 - 2008 Mp3Car.com Inc.Ad Management by RedTyger
Message Board Statistics