Info on OLED Displays

lerandell · 01-05-2005, 05:26 PM

I searched around but there is not much talk about OLED Displays. I found that Kodak is now making these but I do not know in what sizes, how much they are and if they are avalible to the public. I sent an info request email to the group at Kodak telling them how we use them and if they had a product that could be used in our aplication. I will post back as soo as I get a reply.

here is a link the Kodak OLED Displays site.

e_z_street · 01-05-2005, 05:40 PM

What exactly do you want to use the OLED for? I know Delphi is working on OLED guage displays, but they are running into durability issues in auto applications (the color fades). At this point they would be cost prohibitive for us DIYers to use for what we're doing.

Supermike · 01-05-2005, 05:41 PM

I heard that these were going to be expen$ive, but then any new technology will be. I did a froogle search and it brought up alot of cell phones. Another Google search brought up an article saying that Kodak and Sanyo were jointly developing OLED's for use as camera displays (2.2" screens).

egeekial · 01-05-2005, 05:42 PM

Not to mention that they're going to cost about $20,000 when they are first available

lerandell · 01-05-2005, 05:52 PM

$20,000....LOL...
You’re probably right. My hope in the end would be to have an in dash motorized unit with touch screen. Or at least a basic kit that we can install in our dash or a houseing.
These OLED units should resolve or at least help our "cant see in the sun light" problem. Plus better viewing at an angle.

Bama5150 · 01-05-2005, 05:55 PM

They will be expensive at first, but it is my understanding that they are actually cheaper to produce as they can be printed or something. Samsung is producing a 21" TV with it now...jeez i just one one 7" with a nice little touchscreen. And E_Z_Street, the reason why we want one is so you can see it well in direct sunlight. And as far as the color fading, its takes a lot of hours to fade..way more than you spend in your car im sure. Ive been waiting for years, probably will be waiting for several more years.

"Materials in an OLED display emit light when an electrical current is applied. The displays can function without a backlight, which cuts down on power consumption, screen thickness and cost. OLED displays also offer higher resolution than LCDs."

Samsung develops 21-inch OLED for TVs

hd54321 · 01-05-2005, 06:04 PM

OLED has been the holy grail for LCD's for the last 2-3 years. It's supposed to be the next big thing. As far as I know, the only consumer-ready device to employ OLED screens (other than some of the small external screens on cell phones) is a Kodak digital camera that has an OLED display screen. I think the size of the screen is about 2".

e_z_street · 01-05-2005, 06:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bama5150

And E_Z_Street, the reason why we want one is so you can see it well in direct sunlight. And as far as the color fading, its takes a lot of hours to fade..way more than you spend in your car im sure. Ive been waiting for years, probably will be waiting for several more years.

I am fine with my hi-bright tft for now. When the price drops for an OLED, then we'll talk again. Unless I can get one from work for free <8^)

As far as the color fading, I'm just telling you what the Delphi engineer told me. They are having durability issues with OLEDs in automotive environments. I am thinking this is due to temperature, sunlight, shock, etc.

Bama5150 · 01-05-2005, 07:21 PM

Hmm well i have an OLED screen in my pioneer radio. I will let you know if it fades on me

Curiosity · 01-05-2005, 09:08 PM

Ooh, color! Didn't know they actually got it working. The whole idea was to make something cheaper than LCD but $20K? Yuck. Here's more on the designers, patent holders, whatever: http://www.universaldisplay.com/

egeekial · 01-05-2005, 09:20 PM

The 20 grand was an exaggeration on my part. I was just saying that when new technologies are first released, they are very expensive...

lerandell · 01-05-2005, 11:21 PM

I got an email back. Looks like an auto reply. Lets see how long "shortly" is....

Quote:

Dear Randell,

Thank you for your interest in Kodak. At Eastman Kodak, we take great pride in having innovated OLED technology. There's nothing subtle about OLED displays from Kodak. Brighter, more vibrant colors. Exceptionally wide viewing angle. Sharp images that move with the speed of the action. Picture the future! And it's available today-from Kodak.

I will respond to your request from our web site shortly. If you require immediate assistance please feel free to contact me. Thank you again.

Rogelio Sobers
Director of Marketing & Sales - OLED Modules
Kodak Displays
www.kodak.com/go/display
(585) 477-5204

lerandell · 01-05-2005, 11:27 PM

you guys have to see this video from the web site Curiosity posted. Not that I will need to bend my screen that way.....

Flexable OLED screen

Bama5150 · 01-06-2005, 07:21 PM

i think a nice screen bent around my dash would be cool.

hd54321 · 01-06-2005, 07:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bama5150

Hmm well i have an OLED screen in my pioneer radio. I will let you know if it fades on me

Your OLED screen is a single color - not sure what the Delphi gauges are going to be, but single/multi color OLED screens have been out for a LONG time now. Don't any of you remember that one Motorola StarTAC flip phone? - It had a "color" screen. It was basically a black OLED screen that was able to display 3 different colors on different parts of the screen.

-HD