800X1280 narrowscreen??? - Page 6

turbocad6 · 08-14-2005, 06:34 PM

I got a break today & had to babysit for a few hours.... perfect time to do a little soldering..... just happened to have everything in the truck

they work!!!!! they're pretty bright... after looking at them for a minute of so you start to "see spots".....

at first I was ****ed off because they didn't really seem to get hot.... it was on for 5 minutes & barly warmed the plate... I started to think I wasted my time & effort to water cool these... after 10 minutes they got pretty warm.... after 15 minutes they were hot & by 20 min. the plate was too hot to hold..... I now know the water cooling will be more than adiquate...... can't wait to drop the lcd in front of these to see the results.....

turbocad6 · 08-14-2005, 06:40 PM

the 1w luxeons that I got are whats called a bat wing design... they project foward, but are a little brighter on an angle... approx. the same angle that the screen is viewed in the car.... these things shold work great.... I have several ideas for diffusers & that may take a little playing with to get the light even with no hot spots ....we'll see...

CavityCr33p · 08-14-2005, 07:58 PM

Wow, if you can get by with no hot spots, this will be amazing.

Depending, and youve probably already answered this, but what do you think would be a pricing for a complete upgrade kit?

I know you wont have exact, but maybe a guesstimate?

turbocad6 · 08-17-2005, 10:42 AM

I don't really plan on making any kits for this... but I can tell you what i did & wher I sourced the stuff for it,

as far as costs, THAT'S the drawback here..... this is not a cheap way to do this at all..... I looked at all of my alternatives & this was the only way I could go without having extra heat & noise from fans.... if I could have gotten EEFL'S I would have saved a lot & it would have been much less complicated, but not available as of yet.....

total costs for this "upgrade" are a little over a grand..... the initial order of 20 luxeon 1's with dimming power supplies & harness' was around $270, the 1/4" copper plate cut to size was around $120, the two cold plates behind the copper plate were $90 each, the pump I am using for this was around $100, I just ordered 12 more luxeon 1's with another dimming power supply at $150, I still need a radiator which will be an oil/tranny cooler, should be a little under $100, I then need tubing/hoses, fittings, a reservior tank & coolant.... add taps & misc. hardware, stainless steel... you can see this is an expensive project, but it should be awsome when it's done.... I plan on adding the processor to the liquid cooling system to eliminate all fans from my dash...

I started playing with the lcd over this... with no diffusers added, just the diffusers built into the lcd itself, there are hot spots... they show up in photo's more than in person so you can see what I mean.... this photo is next to my laptop, both brightness all the way up...

dmurray14 · 08-17-2005, 10:55 AM

No offense, but I am just trying to imagine who would pay for a behemoth of a backlight that likely wouldn't fit in our dash for $1000. I for one, would not.

Granted, it's really neat to see for testing purposes, and I don't mean to put a damper on the accomplishments, just providing a reality-check...

Dan

turbocad6 · 08-17-2005, 11:44 AM

I don't think anyone would pay a grand for this... never said that.... I would think no one else would do this really.

this thing don't have to fit in anyone elses dash..... it fits in mine, that's what it was built for?

I do think this could be adapted to a 7" screen which wouldn't be so "behemoth"... it would cost much less & would need a tiny pump.... the end result would be about the size of a double din head unit.... I'm not telling anyone to do it though, what reality check are you talking about?

turbocad6 · 08-17-2005, 12:56 PM

I played with a few diffusers & got this to be much better.... when I fill the dark spots with led's I expect it to be perfect..... & very bright......

sheerdark · 08-30-2005, 01:37 AM

nice job. It looks really effective. I always say - if you've got the money to spare, why not spend it on what makes you happy/serves a purpose in your life. I'll certainly be checking this thread out again to see how things turn out. Good Luck!

CornToeGoblin · 08-30-2005, 09:26 PM

damn that's pretty dope

turbocad6 · 09-20-2005, 07:30 PM

well.... by far the hardest part of this whole project has turned out to be the plumbing, or more specifically the sweating of the copper tubing....... this should have been the least of the problems, but is turning into the biggest nightmare ever..... not only is 1/4" elbows & t's a ***** to find....I've been to at least a dozen home depo's & hardware stores.... finally found a lowes that had them... bought all they had & still ran short...... been to a few different lowes.... finally got all the fittings.... that's not the problem....... problem is I can't sweat pipe to save my life!!!!!!! I've been screwing with this part of the project for more than a month now......

I have been trying to do this & frustrating my self to the point that tonight I came really close to flinging this thing across the shop!!!! & belive me , I have a lot of patience!!!! I give up!!!!!!!!

tommorow I'm going to a plumber to sort this mess out..... I don't care what he charges me, I can't take this anymore!!!!

what a nightmare..... once this plumbing is soldered I can mount the screen final & finish it.... hopefully soon.......... this is what this mess looks like so far:

turbocad6 · 09-20-2005, 07:32 PM

man, I should have just went with compression fittings.... but me & my bright ideas, I thought sweated pipe would be less trouble

turbocad6 · 09-20-2005, 07:42 PM

the way it is now it leaks in like a million places!!!!!!!!

edit: O.K., maybe just a few places, but it's just NFG...

shdi_us · 09-21-2005, 05:20 PM

I am trying to use a laptop screen in a car installation.
here is my website with all the information
http://www.geocities.com/shdi_us/laptop.htm

alti · 09-21-2005, 07:06 PM

are you sweating with mapp or propane? you should be fine with propane but map is hotter (I found it much easier). I am no plumber, but i have redone 2 bathrooms and a laundry room, r u heating up the cooper first and then appling the solder? You have to heat it up to that magic point before you kill all the flux and hot enough to melt the solder on contact. It should just "suck in the solder" when it is hot enough.

On joints I screwed up I had to toss them, and start clean. Without fail, joints i tried to "fix" once there was solder stuck on the copper never worked.

turbocad6 · 09-21-2005, 08:02 PM

I'm working on it right now......... I figured out the problem..... not enough heat, combined with the connections getting dirty. I went to my plumber kid but he wasn't in today... I called another buddy & he basically yelled at me for not being able to do it, then sent me to his garage to pick up some rods that he used for his central a/c..... this thing is so much copper & aluminium that it disapated the heat to much, I had to really cook these fittings.... I was trying to do them with the leds in & I was trying to not discolor or burn the stainless.... so i wasn't heating it enough, well I was for sweating, but not enough for his welding rods....

now I stripped out the leds & just tourched away.... the rods he has were really nice.... there almost like copper themselves.... they melt in without just running & dripping, even if the connection is dirty.... I think I got it now..... waiting for it to cool, then test if it holds pressure

I actually blew a big 1/4" hole through the tube at one point, but his rods are so awsome that I was able to weld it closed..... this was more like tig welding than sweating, but it seems ok...... we'll see when it cools.......