lilliput 619 is reflective, 629 has antiglare?

kbyrd · 11-11-2005, 12:34 AM

I met john94587 today in person. He wanted to see if his lilliput 629 was blurry because it is or because it's busted. He has a 629 I have a 619. His 629 appears to have some sort of anti-glar thing. I'm not sure if it's the touch film itself or something on top of it, but where my 619 is a mirror, his is diffuse. The overall effect is that my 619 is sharper and brighter. But, it's a mirror. I can clearly make out details of reflection in it. On his 629, wide viewing angles work much better, it's darker and a bit softer, but does a pretty good job of not being so reflective. When showing bright white, you can clearly see a sort of fuzzy rainbow haze on his 629.

Is this another 619 vs. 629 difference? I haven't seen it mentioned. I'd really like to live with both the glare and anti-glare for a week and see which one I like. Anyone know what's up?

DarquePervert · 11-11-2005, 08:35 AM

I'm certainly not the expert, but it almost sounds like a difference in the touchkit. The 629 appears to be using a new touchpanel that isn't so mirror-like

kbyrd · 11-11-2005, 09:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DarquePervert

I'm certainly not the expert, but it almost sounds like a difference in the touchkit. The 629 appears to be using a new touchpanel that isn't so mirror-like

That's the impression I was left with. I just had not seen it talked about yet, and was wondering whether it was a difference between the two or maybe "old" vs. "new" units. I always though the 619 had a flat face and the 629 had curved. This 629 wasn't curved at all. Just anti-glare. john94587 bought it off eBay, I wonder if it's a fake?

Peoples · 11-11-2005, 09:58 AM

hmmm, counterfiet lilliputs? strange concept.....since their rep isnt the best

the unbadged screens on this site appear to be lilliputs....but i dont recognize the 8"....maybe a super brand?

http://short-circuit.com/categories/monitors.html

mpquattro · 11-11-2005, 04:53 PM

I've got the 629, and while I havn't spent much time looking at 619's, I would not come close to claiming the surface of mine was "mirror-like". It definitely has that hazy anti-glare appearance to it. I bought mine from the mp3car.com/store in July of this year (some counter-counterfeit evidence).

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john94587 · 11-16-2005, 06:18 AM

Surprising I search on this site and there's no discussion of this either. Kbyrd was mentioning of my screen. I tested everything and it seems it's a Lilliput. I'm going to take some pictures of my screen and kbyrd can take pictures of his screen and we can compare.
Hey kbyrd maybe we can trade for a week or two just to test when my screen is fit in the bezel. LoL.

kbyrd · 11-16-2005, 08:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by john94587

Surprising I search on this site and there's no discussion of this either. Kbyrd was mentioning of my screen. I tested everything and it seems it's a Lilliput. I'm going to take some pictures of my screen and kbyrd can take pictures of his screen and we can compare.
Hey kbyrd maybe we can trade for a week or two just to test when my screen is fit in the bezel. LoL.

You said "lol", but I would totally go for that. Of course, we have to wait for me to get another power supply.

Matrix_24 · 11-16-2005, 02:47 PM

I have the same issue with my 629. I have more problems viewing mine during the day than my friend with the 619. Are the screens interchangable?

I also have an odd problem that my screen will not dim in centrafuse on my car pc or home pc. My friends 619 does.

NoTicketsPlease · 02-14-2006, 06:11 PM

Looks like lilliput's site has different specs for them:

619:
Brightness: 400cd/m2

629:
Brightness: 350cd/m2

Consistent with your observations. Found this at gdsun.com

kbyrd · 02-15-2006, 12:39 PM

I haven't updated this in a while. But here's the deal. According to Armen at digitalww.com, you can get 619's with the anti-glare screen as well. It's just the touchpanel. I bought a matte replacement from him and put it on my 619, works great.

WebDog · 02-16-2006, 12:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kbyrd

I haven't updated this in a while. But here's the deal. According to Armen at digitalww.com, you can get 619's with the anti-glare screen as well. It's just the touchpanel. I bought a matte replacement from him and put it on my 619, works great.

is it easier to see now?

nadir_s · 02-16-2006, 12:59 PM

does the anti-glare touch panel have tiny dots in a grid pattern, if u look at it closely?

I have the latest 619 revision which is black, and the touchpanel, power "egg" and even the VGA connector cable are different.

Kalt · 02-16-2006, 01:04 PM

Yes it does, it almost looks like there is a layer over the touch panel that you can peel off. I ordered a 619 from digitallww over a year ago that had the anti-glare panel but my latest 619 from mp3car has the mirror like touch panel, its really annoying to look at in direct sunlight.

Quote: Originally Posted by nadir_s

does the anti-glare touch panel have tiny dots in a grid pattern, if u look at it closely?

I have the latest 619 revision which is black, and the touchpanel, power "egg" and even the VGA connector cable are different.

nadir_s · 02-16-2006, 01:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kalt

Yes it does, it almost looks like there is a layer over the touch panel that you can peel off. I ordered a 619 from digitallww over a year ago that had the anti-glare panel but my latest 619 from mp3car has the mirror like touch panel, its really annoying to look at in direct sunlight.

o ok, yeah the black 619 has the antiglare.

However, the display is not as sharp as the old one ... it seems to be a BIT hazy ... hard to explain, but u can tell there's something over the display.

at least teh screen functions alot better than my older revision ones (i've had 3 older revisions before this).

kbyrd · 02-16-2006, 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nadir_s

o ok, yeah the black 619 has the antiglare.

However, the display is not as sharp as the old one ... it seems to be a BIT hazy ... hard to explain, but u can tell there's something over the display.

at least teh screen functions alot better than my older revision ones (i've had 3 older revisions before this).

Yea, it's a bit hazy, someone described it as 'rainbox speckles'. I didn't notice it, it had to be pointed out to me. If you're in the bay area, you can come see it. I tried to take pictures (in my worklog) but they don't show the difference very well.