Linux help needed - make fun of the N00b - Page 6

PaulF · 06-03-2009, 03:56 PM

The fact that phpMyAdmin is in the package system is a great idea, but it's annoying in practice. All phpMyAdmin is is a set of php files. It doesn't need this "installation" bologna. Save yourself package management issues and go here:
http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
download it, unarchive it and stick it in the root folder of your web directory. It has a configuration file in there too.

That site also has a bunch of documentation on it.

Your proftpd problems are not problems with proftpd. The problem is you don't have the ftp client installed on the the plug. See what apt-get turns up for apt-get install ftp. Otherwise, we'll need to talk about alternative FTP clients.

You can also go to the mac terminal and try to ftp from there to the plug.

Bugbyte · 06-03-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PaulF

Your proftpd problems are not problems with proftpd. The problem is you don't have the ftp client installed on the the plug. See what apt-get turns up for apt-get install ftp. Otherwise, we'll need to talk about alternative FTP clients.

You can also go to the mac terminal and try to ftp from there to the plug.

Sure enough, that worked. So....what the hell is proftpd? I thought it was an implementation of ftp for debian? Sigh.

red_parchel · 06-03-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bugbyte

Sure enough, that worked. So....what the hell is proftpd? I thought it was an implementation of ftp for debian? Sigh.

ftp is split up in a server [ in your case proftpd] and a client [in your case ftp on the mac]

the d at the end of proftpd "suggests" that it's a daemon, or an application that runs in the back ground .. typically a server ... example: jabberd is the jabber messaging daemon[read server]

ftp is the client this connects to the server just like your web browser on your mac connects to the apache web server on your plug, ftp [from any comptuer with an ftp client on it] will connect to the ftp server [proftpd] on the plug!

so back to the SATS ftp:proftpd::firefox:apache2 [loosely]

cgalpin · 06-04-2009, 04:54 PM

Sounds like you got your ftp problem sorted out, great.

Regarding phpmyadmin, regardless of if you choose to re-install using the package, or install from a tar ball, you will want to do two things

1. Uninstall the package

Code:

sudo apt-get remove phpmyadmin

2. Make sure you know your root password and can connect to mysql before reinstalling. You should be able to run

Code:

mysql -u root -p

And enter your password and get a "mysql>" prompt.

Oh and if you don't think you need it, just do #1 and scrap it. I just figured you'd find it useful and it does confirm you have a working installation.

hth
charles

kev000 · 06-10-2009, 09:11 AM

This is a very interesting idea. Would it be worth combining efforts and adding the results of this work into LinuxICE? Maybe a LinuxICE headless edition: doesn't have X, nGhost or any other graphical peices, just runs the services (wifi-proximity, fbd, obdgpslogger(d), apache, etc).

I think an awesome web interface to these services can be produced if done right: create a sf.net project, subversion code repo so multiple coders can hack on it all at once, packages for LinuxICE/Ubuntu, etc.

what say ye?

cgalpin · 06-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Hehe, why do you think I have gotten involved in LinuxICE2 kev?

I'm not pinned down to any one way, but you hit the nail on the head - the carputer can and should be able to be very useful without any graphical interface. I want a "core" computer that is low enough power use when idle to never need to be turned off, and just stays on all the time. That core is LinuxICE

Then one or more other pieces can boot up with the car, (maybe even using tftp to get it's image from the core) and provide other services like user input, displays etc. Or say use your iphone

:grin

kev000 · 06-10-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by cgalpin

Hehe, why do you think I have gotten involved in LinuxICE2 kev?

I'm not pinned down to any one way, but you hit the nail on the head - the carputer can and should be able to be very useful without any graphical interface. I want a "core" computer that is low enough power use when idle to never need to be turned off, and just stays on all the time. That core is LinuxICE

Then one or more other pieces can boot up with the car, (maybe even using tftp to get it's image from the core) and provide other services like user input, displays etc. Or say use your iphone

:grin

score!

Bugbyte · 06-10-2009, 03:21 PM

Awesome, guys! I don't know where all of this is heading but an ice2 headless on the plug with a web interface would be really cool!

PaulF · 06-10-2009, 08:43 PM

I'm up for putting forth some help on the web interface. Get me a back end to work with and I can produce the PHP/AJAX/Javascript/XHTML to make it happen.

I like how this thread has evolved way past the n00b level.

kev000 · 06-11-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by PaulF

I'm up for putting forth some help on the web interface. Get me a back end to work with and I can produce the PHP/AJAX/Javascript/XHTML to make it happen.

I like how this thread has evolved way past the n00b level.

Let me know what you need on the backend. We have service for gps (gpsd), fusionbrain (fbd), obd-ii (obdgpslogger now supports DBus), SMS (smsd)...

Also, if you need a place to commit your code, I can make a place in the LinuxICE svn repo for it.

PaulF · 06-11-2009, 07:04 PM

I just created a thread for the web front end here:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/linu...nt-thread.html

I came up with some ideas and plans that you should all critique.

Now we can direct this thread back at the sheeva.

chunkyks · 06-15-2009, 07:34 PM

By the way, ftp is dead, let it be. Dead, f**ked, broken, insecure, busted old pos. Ditto telnet [I didn't see if you're ssh'ing into the wallwart or telnet'ing into it].

scp is your friend. There's a mind-boggling awesome gui for it for windows, and for linux there's a thousand already-existing pointy-clikky file managers and command-line versions. If ssh is working, then you already have scp working. One of my favorite other benefits of ssh and scp is that you can set up public key authentication, so you don't have to type in your password, but it's secure.

If you're still using telnet or ftp it is absolutely, unequivocally, worth taking ten minutes to learn to use scp instead of ftp and ssh instead of telnet.

Gary (-;

Bugbyte · 06-15-2009, 11:15 PM

Thanks, that was a cool tip. I've been ssh'ing into the plug and using ftp with difficulty. This is way easier.

Also, check my progress on the "How to build this for ARM" thread.

chunkyks · 06-16-2009, 12:14 AM

oo, it magically built ? yay !

Gary (-;

Bugbyte · 06-16-2009, 12:15 AM

yeah, it built. Not sure if I can get ftdi to work, but obdgpslogger built. Small progress, small progress!

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