ckny

http://www.cknyx.com/frremotecrash.txt

thats a link to the crash report. sorry for the rtf formatting, it's late.

Mahalis

I'm going to work on that tonight and tomorrow - I'm thinking a Dashboard-style (but larger) X button in the lower-right corner. It shouldn't be a problem to have that both close Front Row and then quit the app itself.

Edit - also, new version. Removed one probably-unnecessary bit of code from the click handler that might've been causing some of the nastiness, though I'm really not sure - to handle the scrollingness I have to call some kinda low-level functions, the same ones a keyboard driver would, so a conflict there might be the source of the crashing.
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super-fly

So when you are watching a movie would it be in the middle of the screen like that too? Any shots of that?

CArringt

Instead of gving another button have press and hold on the menu button exit front frow row then quit the program. just an idea. as of now the button does nothing when pressed and held. i really love this.

super-fly

Maybe I missed it, but why would it not be advantagous to have the control time out and either disappear completly or fade to nearly nothing and then reappear when you touch the screen. It's not really a problem when you are listening to music, but when you are trying to view pictures or watch a movie I could see where it would get kind of annoying.

tpat

How about providing the source, or better yet the complete Xcode project?

Mahalis

It does.

CArringt

ok i figured out what's going on.

the controls do fade out, but only if you use them. in other words, if you click or touch the screen the controls appear and will stay there until one of the buttons are touched. if the buttons are not touched then they will not dissapear

super-fly

O...ok cool. I haven't been able to test it yet as my screen is apart right now because I am rebuilding the bezel. Sorry I guess I should have tried it out first.

CArringt

Mahalis,

Is there anyway to incude an "If/then" statement right when the controls are brought up. If the controls aren't touched again, after the initial touch, in 2.5sec(or whatever)/then they will revert back to their invisible state.

As it stands right now if i bump the screen or something then i have to make a selection before the controls will ddissapear again.

Got another question: Can you make another program that mimics the style of front row but that would carry four(or more) different programs. Have it launch and close the same way and spin the icons and the other things. if so i have another idea on how we can extend front row to cover every aspect of a carputer that we need, with room to grow indefinately.

Mahalis

Absolutely. Thanks for bringing it to my attention - I really hadn't noticed, all my testing focuses on actually using the buttons


Yeesh. Um... that would have to be a maybe. I've written something that looks a bit like it, but the animations are much laggier - I think Front Row may use OpenGL for what it does, or at least some unpleasantly advanced Core Graphics stuff. Also, I have approximately no idea whatsoever about how to do some of its really fancy tricks - transformed video previews, real-time floor reflections, and for that matter taking the initial screenshot that the whole thing then zooms out from. It's not -impossible- per se, but it would be at least until this summer that I'd have enough time to learn everything that'd be needed to recreate Front Row.

Edit - updated again. App will now fade out after three seconds of nonactivity, whether you've clicked any buttons in the interim or not.

raceer

This is great !!

How can you 'quit' the remote ?

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CArringt

Have you figured out a way to implement something like this?

CArringt

I don't want to recreate front row. for what it does, it does it very well. my idea is to creat another program that you could toggle back and forth between with another button on our current control system. you could incorperate the functions needed into this program that are beneficial to car users.
the only things i can really think of off the top of my head for examples would be. xm radio, bluetooth phone support, internet browsing and email. these could be the four componets of "back row" lol (things you're not supposed to do in the front row) sorry

anyway. since the current application is always on top you could add another layer. have the four icons for these functions mimic that of front row.Because they would be another layer of the current application, whatever you are doing in front row would not altered by what you are doing in the layer extension. meaning you could still have your music playing while you are looking at your email.

I'm not a programmer so if what i'm saying doesn't make since or isn't possible let me down easy.

The programming for xm radio is already availible in almost the same language as our project. mac xm was a source forge project and was written in Cocoa ( a subsidiary of Objective C).Here Not to make light of the work but it seems like it would be a small re-write and more of a redisgn in the GUI.

I do not wish to make little of the work, just wondering how much it would be, and if it was possible at all.

Chanse

super-fly

Is anyone else having problems with this? One I can't seem to figure out how to close the remote. I've tried clicking everything on the screen to try and exit it, but everytime I click anywhere the remote just pops up. I can't use anything behind the remote. Also, two or three of the buttons on the remote got stuck in the pressed position. Now it's in front row and I click the screen and the remote doesn't even come up. Other than that it's pretty cool.