FrontRow Remote - Page 8

Mahalis · 03-21-2006, 06:42 PM

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This program is written in objective c. is there anyway to embedd an applescript?

That's what I'm doing.

Your rating idea would work, and might not take long to implement, but I'd like to make sure I've got the core functionality - e.g. not-crashingness - working before I start tacking on more features.

CArringt · 03-21-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI4cathy

This is why Apple only puts the clickwheel on devices that have a display. Even the iPod shuffle doesn't have it. A drive-time touchscreen interface needs to be very different to be usable without looking.

the layout of buttons or controls aren't what makes something usable without looking. being familiar with the product is what makes it usable without looking. no matter what kind of button layout you have, you're still going to have to look at it. i've had a car pc over the last two years and i still have to look and see what i'm trying to touch.

The only way you could setup a control interface that would not require visual aid would be to ( in this situation):

Break the screen into six quadrants:
1. Top inch or 20% of the screen functions as the up button
2. Bottom inch or twenty ""
3. Left ""
4. Right ""
5. Center of the the screen functions as the "Pause/Play" button
6. have a inch square out of one of the corners act as the menu button(being customizable to any of the four corners. just in case any of your crazy brits that drive on the wrong side of the road want a little support. ;-) j/k)

honestly i don't think something like this is a bad idea, but this is reason i'm against it? 2 of them:
1. it's against the law for me to be using it in my car, while driving, in LA. So therefore i'm stopped so i might as well look at it.
2. About 10% of the reason i even have it in my car is for "Functionality", the other 90% is for the "Holy *****!!" effect.

CArringt · 03-21-2006, 06:57 PM

I'm going to start a suggested feature Link on the first thread. all of those with idea's that you believe would be easily incorperated please contribute them. please do not post wishful dreaming.
ex: "GPS Software"
But serious suggestions are welcome

The link will be up tomorrow

CArringt · 03-23-2006, 01:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mahalis

Okay, good news - I've found the beginning of a trail that may lead to a reason for the crashes. I suspect that the crashes and general weirdness are happening when - for one reason or another - the system is already handling a pressed key. That can be a key on the keyboard, a custom-mouse-driver-input thing (like the back and forward buttons on some Logitech mice), or whatever a Powermate sends. There are several ways this might be fixed - if anyone has a good way either to detect already-held-down keys systemwide or to trap the weird error this is throwing and account for that, let me know.

New powermate driver Here

MINI4cathy · 03-23-2006, 11:13 AM

CArringt, familiarity doesn't help if you can't differentiate where you're touching. Apple doesn't put a clickwheel UI on the shuffle or the Apple Remote so you won't have to look at them while you're using them.

The edges of a screen can provide the 'landmarks' for using a touchscreen, and since they have two edges the corners are the best locations. You're on the right track...

Mahalis · 03-23-2006, 11:18 AM

I'm not sure why a few of my posts disappeared, but as I said, I think I may have fixed the problem; anyone who's been having crashing problems, please try the new version here.

Mahalis · 03-28-2006, 09:22 PM

Umm... is nobody having any problems at all then? Or has this made everyone's computer go up in flames? What?

breadman · 03-28-2006, 10:37 PM

I haven't been having any problems for weeks!

:-)

Thanx Mahalis!

hotch · 03-29-2006, 01:22 AM

ooh, i didn't see that post, i'll have to try it again

raceer · 03-31-2006, 02:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mahalis

Umm... is nobody having any problems at all then? Or has this made everyone's computer go up in flames? What?

Very neat !! No probs (G4 1.42, 1G)

CArringt · 04-03-2006, 01:18 PM

Mahalis can we change the click regions to be more userfriendly for some of our users. what i was wanting to do is leave the physical attirbuts of the buttons the same. but change the click regions to help in the car environment.
Leave the Play/Pause & Menu Click Regions where they are, but extend the four directional controls. essicentially you would be dividing the screen into four quadrants with a center circular button and an offest circular menu button. is this even possible? good idea/ bad idea?

pepsibobby · 04-03-2006, 02:20 PM

does anyone ave all the files to put front row on any computer? i am trying but cant figure it out again. Thanks.

CArringt · 04-03-2006, 02:58 PM

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.p...orum_id=549521

jdisenberg · 04-03-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CArringt

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.p...orum_id=549521

Andrew Escobar's site is down, he removed everything about the frontrow hack... I would put directions up, but to be honest I tried to put it on my Dad's mini yesterday and I couldn't get it to work so apprently I forgot as well, sorry.

pepsibobby · 04-04-2006, 05:17 AM

yeah got it to work thanks, and the remore does not work very well for me. I dont know if i dont have enough ram or what. but causes my computer to go all screwy and loose touch screen usage.