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02-01-2005, 01:14 PM
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See me in my wet t-shirt.
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Email 4: Yes OK maybe it is time for overkill then terran...
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Sent: Tue 01/02/2005 18:15
To: info@hstcglobal.com; info@destinatoreurope.com
Subject: FAO Andreas & Dennis DeCoste - D3 PC & Mapmonkey
Both,
I am a licensed user of your Destinator 3 product in the UK and have been over the past few years an advocate in the Car PC community. I have in the past had your product promoted in UK PC magazines and helped encourage many people to want to buy your product.
The reason I am writing to you is that I am feeling even more let down than usual by yourselves. Previosuly I had felt let down because as there was no Destinator 3 product for the PC I had many people ask me where to get it.. And I had to tell them it wasn't available. After a while I realised it was not coming after seeing a post on Car PC community forums saying that thee wouldn't be a PC product unless 1000 people pre-ordered it without seeing the final product first.
So after seeing that someone had got the 'SDK' to work on the PC and someone had developed a decent product, now named 'Map Monkey' I was very interested and spent a long time following the software development, and while the software was in beta I purchased Destinator 3 (the SDK site said I only need a license for D3 to use SDK-based programs). This became rather popular and even Car PC retailers have started selling your product.
Not long ago I read that your company wanted to stop people using it on the PC and were unhappy that the SDK was fixed to work with maps (pretty essential if you ask me). I understand this is because some dishonest people used the software with no intention of buying your product but of course this happens with all software and not a loss when you don't sell a PC product. It's no reason to punish people who like me have legal copies of the software.
I now read that a PC version is coming out... second hand information once again of course! So what is to be done about the many many users who bought the PPC version to use on the PC? We have a license, we gave you money upfront when no real product existed! I cannot afford to buy yet another version which will for all purposes offer me nothing more that what was 'legal' as far as anyone knew until the other day.
Please can your company make a public statement either on your website, on MP3Car, wherever. We NEED to know. I've emailed sdk europe/us, support US and had nothing substantial back. Let the people know now before it's too late as there are many many more apparently waiting to buy your product (and of course a good few who have vowed never to buy your product again after being left cold and dry after D2!)
Kind Regards,
Steve
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02-02-2005, 05:32 AM
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The Vauxhall Vectra Project
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Location: Morecambe, Lancs, UK ( Just For The Moment )
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Found this in my inbox - dated 1st Sept 2004. So if PL have now got a PC D3 version its either naff and full of bugs as an urgent response to MM or ... well this was a plain lie - either way - not very good PR.
Quote:
Dear Terran:
Thanks for the magazine article. At the present time, we still do not
have plans to develop the desktop version. But thanks for your efforts.
Alice ( Man - Powerlock / HSTC )
Terran
PS I have the original safe and will not give out the email addy
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02-02-2005, 09:29 AM
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See me in my wet t-shirt.
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote: Originally Posted by ccsnet
Mwwwhahahaha we've got the press onto them now
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02-02-2005, 09:49 AM
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Confusion Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I'm now getting a feeling of paranoia, not only are we being watched over by powerloc, we've now got the 'press' spying on us too.
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02-02-2005, 02:21 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Amsterdam
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C'mon guys, the time and effort put in this is just not worth it.
Let them stubborn map donkeys swindle PPC users, not us.
I'd rather read witty English posts instead of these boring emails.
Michael
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02-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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Raw Wave
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Madrid
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Quote: Originally Posted by fly_dutchie
C'mon guys, the time and effort put in this is just not worth it.
Let them stubborn map donkeys swindle PPC users, not us.
I'd rather read witty English posts instead of these boring emails.
Michael
Me too!
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02-02-2005, 03:15 PM
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#68
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Confusion Master
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02-05-2005, 03:18 PM
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The Vauxhall Vectra Project
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NM - ( or Any one else ) - any news on the phantom D3 for PC release ?
Terran
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02-05-2005, 04:43 PM
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See me in my wet t-shirt.
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote: Originally Posted by ccsnet
NM - ( or Any one else ) - any news on the phantom D3 for PC release ?
Terran
Yep on Thursday (nothing friday though... hopefully something on monday?!)
Quote:
From: Rafiq xxxxxxx [rxxxxxxx@hstcglobal.com] Sent: Thu 03/02/2005 3:53 PM
To: Steve Goodman
Subject: RE: Registration Problems
Hello Steve,
Regarding the PC version things are still the same. I will be receiving an update on the PC version tomorrow (Friday). Once I have this info I will be able to update you. I am hoping to get an ETA at least tomorrow but can not promise.
Thanks
Rafiq
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02-05-2005, 05:01 PM
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The Vauxhall Vectra Project
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Quote: Originally Posted by stevieg
Yep on Thursday (nothing friday though... hopefully something on monday?!)
Mmmm - least they have botherd replying to yours
Terran
EDIT: Steve - when they reply ask them for a feature list.... I'm not expecting much diffrent from the PPC version other than a small hope that TMC may be available.
T
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02-10-2005, 04:57 AM
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See me in my wet t-shirt.
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OK response on Tuesday (been off work ill so missed it!)...
Quote:
From: Rafiq xxxxxxxx [rxxxxxxxxx@hstcglobal.com]
Sent: Tue 08/02/2005 17:14
Subject: RE: Registration Problems
Hello Steve,
I still haven't received any news on the PC version. However I was able to get the following information for you. I hope it will help for now:
New DestinatorSDK package include PC dll with PC security.
So it will use full size maps, but client have to purchase license to activate it. Package also contains Activation executable.
Thanks
Rafiq
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02-10-2005, 12:49 PM
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See me in my wet t-shirt.
Join Date: Aug 2003
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More from Rafiq...
Quote:
Yes it will allow you to have the latest SDK.
Thanks
Rafiq
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Goodman [mailto:S.P.Goodman@aston.ac.uk]
Sent: February 10, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Rafiq Kassam
Subject: RE: Registration Problems
Does the "Support Package Trial" contain the new SDK?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rafiq Kassam [mailto:rkassam@hstcglobal.com]
> Sent: 10 February 2005 17:27
> To: Steve Goodman
> Subject: RE: Registration Problems
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> Hello Steve,
> Please visit www.destinator1.com/sdk where you will be able to get
> details as well as purchase the SDK. Please click on "Enroll" and
> follow the four steps.
> Thank you
> Rafiq
>
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03-17-2005, 05:45 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 37
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From my understanding, the $50 SDK on their web site does not limit you to 3MB maps correct?
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03-17-2005, 05:52 PM
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The Vauxhall Vectra Project
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Quote: Originally Posted by aseraj
From my understanding, the $50 SDK on their web site does not limit you to 3MB maps correct?
Yep - thats correct. They include the DLL that will allow this to happern on a PC. All you do is replace the current one that is included with the MM installer.
Terran
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