Fiberoptic

We talk with John Xu, the US representative for Lilliput. He tells us about some new models that are in the works.

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Fiberoptic

Ummm. My title needs to be fixed. coming right up.

StanVX

Interesting, although i'v never understood the hype of DVI... :s
And the US representative seemed totally clueless! haha

doclee

These are by far the least informative videos I've ever seen in my life. No product shots whatsoever.

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Robert Wray - Founder of MP3Car.com????

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Bugbyte

Which product did you want a shot of?

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2k1Toaster

Can you tell them we want factory OEM transflective... there is demand.

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doclee

This is the problem. We're not there so we don't know what exactly is on display in the booths. Without video footage or at least pictures of what is on display, I can't really tell you what product I'd want to see or if anything peaks my interest or if I'd like more information about a product.

About the only thing I can tell you from that video footage is that John Xu probably wouldn't be much fun at a dinner party.

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Bugbyte

Ah, I thought you meant we failed to shoot one of the products on display.

Well, there were NO new products there. No OLED on the way, no DVI, nothing on display. All the monitors are the same ones that you already know about.

There wasn't much to say about Liliput but we wanted to cover them because they're such a big part of in car computing. Honestly though, there wasn't much to say or show.

You'll notice the Xenarc interview is similar. They didn't have a booth and they have a new DVI monitor in 8 and 10 inch sizes coming out but there was no hardware to shoot.

I was pretty disappointed in the lack of display technologies at CES. We searched for OLED displays using the CES planner and obviously as we walked about but couldn't find them. I've seen some reports that Sony had them but I didn't see them and they weren't on the planner.

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durwood

I'm sure with the way the global economy is and cutbacks everywhere, this might be the reasons for no new stuff.

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si_romin

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't know if there'd be a massive difference in picture quality using a DVI connection over a VGA connection on a 7 or 8 inch monitor. of course, with CCFL to LED there was a significant difference, especially on smaller screens. what kind of picture quality improvements could we expect from a DVI interface?

GiODi

I think the biggest advantage of DVI would be compatibility. I know on my motherboard I could add another monitor without any other upgrades as long as it's digital (DVI).

This is a quote from an old nvidia forum topic:

vythiel
Nov 9 2007, 11:00 PM
DVI - information goes directly from your video card to your monitor. The color of each pixel on your monitor is calculated by your video card and then sent as digital information to your monitor so that no conversion is necessary. An LCD monitor simply reads this information and displays it directly

VGA - Information is converted from digital to [red,green,blue] format. Some accuracy and time is lost in this converstion. How much is lost depends on the monitor's conversion hardware.

Image Quality:

On a CRT monitor, there is no real image quality difference between DVI and VGA. This is because a CRT is natively based on the [red,green,blue] format for displaying each pixel.

On an LCD, you will notice a difference between the 2 formats if you look hard enough. Different LCDs will handle the conversion differently. You may start to see dithering, banding, "dancing pixels" and blander/incorrect colors when using vga on an LCD. The larger the LCD/resolution the more you will notice these differences.

DVI also has a faster data transfer rate, which means that the higher the resolution, the worse the input lag will be if you use VGA. This is very important if you play fast(twitch) shooter games.

Finally, VGA only contains the color information for your monitor's image. DVI includes more than that. That's why when you connect using DVI, you don't have to adjust your monitor's image position, phase, and clock corrections to sync. It contains exactly how/what your video card wants to display.

If you hook up your LCD with VGA, you will notice that several monitor adjustments become available were they were not under DVI. That is because DVI carries all the information your monitor needs to configure itself where as VGA does not.

There are many technical differences, but these are the ones that I could remember on the spot. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

Fiberoptic

You can also have long cable runs up the DVI max length with no distortion. VGA is analog and susceptible to noise. This is eliminated with digital signaling.

si_romin

i can see the point with regards to cable length, but VGA works with no problems up to about 5m, which is a realistic distance.

i think i need to see a 7 inch monitor running off DVI before i can comment. i believe there is a Xenarc model that does this, but requires quite an ugly external box. What's the quality like with this?

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