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Old 07-10-2005, 08:16 AM   #1
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The point on NMC [VIDEO UPDATE]

Here's a point on current NMC dev status. You'll see where i am and where i want to go

Before Beta 1, NMC was using first release of "graphical code", he was needing 2 things:

1. name of the module to find wich content module will show
2. control names to find action to execute and / or show


As of Beta 2 version, core graphical code has changed to a new "ACTIONS" system, letting you choose wich action every control has to execute. The main new feature was that control count is now unlimited.

After this release, i was thinking that the Final version will come fast, but i discivered new ways of improving one more time NMC bas code.

So, i'm now on the way to release an intermediate version, Beta 2a, with a BUNCH of new features.

First, i improved one more time module management code. Now you can create UNLIMITED modules and use unlimited controls on each of them.

Now, im about to REMOVE completely the "3 show modes" thing (normal, medium, full). With new core code its obsolete and unneeded. Skinners will now create one "module" for each show mode. Example: before, there was a audio full mode, now this is replaced by a "audio_full" module.

But what's better with this ? You can now create unlimited show modes !!

I'm also changing the way NMC is working with modules. I explain:

Before this version, each module was on a custom form (so a custom "window"). By example, if you was in MAIN module with audio playing, they was 2 windows, the MAIN window and the AUDIO window, but hidden.

This is more memory used and more CPU also.

Now, NMC is using ALWAYS the same form, so when you want to change module, NMC will simply repaint new controls without changing form ! This is better performances and better module change time for you

Another new feature i'm now coding is that you can now use EVERY ACTION ON EVERY MODULE. So if you want create a module with a FreeDrive GPS map AND a video, you can do it !

You can also merge everything with everything ! The only restriction is to specify wich module is base "AUDIO" module, and wich module is base "VIDEO" module. All other contents are FREE TO USE WHERE YOU WANT.

The last thing that next version will introduce is that every module will be separated in SKIN. So there's no SKIN.XML more, but one for each module.
Why doing this ? Just to let users use a module with another skin and IMPROVE features of NMC.
So each module will be placed in a separate subfolder in skinfolder.
You will also be able to place NCS scripts in module's subfolders and create complete "plugins" for existing skins.

At last, i think no new version will come before end august. Changes i make ar BIG and i need to check all before release. I prefer coding slow and release a great new version

What a big explanation

Thanks to all that have read this point on NMC. Thanks for your help and support, i hope you'll continue to wait on NMC's next versions

NOTE: sorry for my english
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Old 07-10-2005, 03:12 PM   #2
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Nice

Sounds really nice...

I especially like that you can make video and GPS on the same window.

Can't Wait until AUGUST!!

Now the only thing that's missing, is DVD support

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Old 07-10-2005, 07:30 PM   #3
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I have to agree, with this new stuff in mind and the new skin in the works. I am freaking out. I cant wait ither. Good luck and thanks again!

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Old 07-10-2005, 08:10 PM   #4
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WOW this is great news now in theory you can ALWAYS have GPS showing in all modules so you can replace the VIZ window with GPS

I like viz but i think it's distracting sometimes and cops won't like it that much now you can have the best of both worlds and you can switch to full screen gps if you want

Thanks netsuo your done a great job can't wait to see how it goes

i can't wait till august i want it now hehe
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Old 07-11-2005, 12:46 PM   #5
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Uhmm.. where is my time machine... ohhh.. i can't find it.. so i must wait...

NOOOOOOOOOO.....

I can't wait... I love NMC!!!
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So I guess we wait :-W
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:50 PM   #7
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to travel forward in time you close your eyes and you will go through time at a blazing 1 second shouldn't take too long to get to september
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I cant wait for this netsuo! I am almost done with my GPS mods for the idrive skin for RR, I'll send you some screenshots when I'm done... basically it works kind of like the bmw sysem If I recall...

you can have from any module one click to open up a map next to the current module, so if you have a video and press GPS you get video+map, if you are in audio you get playlst+map, and so forth... you can also have FULL map, and Map+Menu for GPS...

It is really cool! I cant wait to port it toNMC though cause I have just loved NMC since release 1!
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I was doing an idrive skin for someone for RR but they never sent me the pictures i requested so i forgot about it.

Id really love to see what your done RoyN
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did you see "btbe"'s idrive skin for RR?

I just did a FreeDrive change to it and split-screen gps as well as full/menu modes for gps...

it is under the RR->Skins forum the title of the post is "beta testers wabted" I think... started by BTBE
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A quick update on development with a video showing you new code in function.

You can really see that NMC is now faster. I added some improvements to have more performances.

You can see in the video that the first time you'll load a module, it will takes more times. This is because the new code is loading every module in memory the first time you start it. After that, it will only "hide" the module's controls and reshow it if you reload the module. All is done without changing window, so you get more speed.
You can see this in the video while i'm changing fast trough audio / main module.

I think its good news for the next part of the dev

Here's the video:

http://www.neocarmediacenter.com/files/NMC_new_code.avi
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Nice..

I'm really looking forward to it!!
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id love to test this on my system as im running a 600mhz mini itx so im curious how much of a speed difference it would give me.

Great job netsuo im lovin it
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still waiting....how long till this new version is ready???
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Quote: Originally Posted by netsuo
At last, i think no new version will come before end august...

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