Is there a way to do this?

freestyler · 09-18-2002, 03:28 PM

I want to have a program ran completely SILENT on a Win98 machine, doesn't put anything in the taskbar or anything. It's a simple bat script, but I also want it to run at different times a day but don't want it seen in the scheduled tasks folder.

Is that possible?

ShinkunoNamida · 09-18-2002, 03:35 PM

maybe if you make an active desktop with a timer that will autoexecute at a certain interval

I don't know if that'll work, it's just an idea

smashr2k · 09-18-2002, 06:31 PM

there is a way to run it as a service - not sure how though

PoBoy · 09-18-2002, 06:55 PM

Its called a "virus"

But yeah, make it a service messing around with the registry.

http://www.winplanet.com/winplanet/tutorials/885/1/

That will tell you how to make it a service...but I am not sure how to make it run durring different times of the day.

MP3DUB · 09-18-2002, 08:13 PM

i found it while i was big on genoming through the hardfolding.com site, it being a app called hide window or something to that effect that would hide a window named x.

freestyler · 09-18-2002, 10:07 PM

See at work we can't have ANY mp3s or movies on our machines due to it being a University, so I have a recursive file delention utility but people are deleting the scheduled task, so I have to make it 100% hidden.

I'll look into the service idea, I was thinking about that!

MP3DUB · 09-19-2002, 01:51 AM

and really, its rather easy to force a app to run as a service. its the matter of whether it will run properly is the question. just add a registry entry in the the hkey_localmachine key for runservices for what ever app you're trying to run.

freestyler · 09-19-2002, 01:54 AM

i'll give that a try at work tomorrow...thanks!

Z00L · 09-19-2002, 05:56 AM

Hi there
Look in the following site:
http://www.cspltd.ndirect.co.uk/desktop/desktop.htm

There's an APP called Window Hide....among other goodies, see if it helps you.

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Aaron Cake · 09-19-2002, 10:14 AM

How about a policy that says if they mess with their machines they'll be fired? Seemed to work for several of our customers...

A service is a good idea, but if you want to get really sneaky, just write a DOS program and put it in autoexec.bat.

Or make it part of a login script.

Or make an INF file for some fake hardware device, and write your program as a VXD, then install it via Device Manager. It will be built into VMM32.VXD, which will be nearly impossible to remove.

Do you have any custom apps for your business that they have to use? Edit the source and include your utility in there.

Make up some nice company screen savers (it's just a standard EXE renamed to SCR) that do it in the background.

freestyler · 09-19-2002, 02:49 PM

we've tried the whole don't touch policy, now we ghost the machines once a week and do this.

i was going to do the autoexec.bat idea, but I wanted it to run at multiple times
hehe

C4M · 09-20-2002, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freestyler
I want to have a program ran completely SILENT on a Win98 machine, doesn't put anything in the taskbar or anything. It's a simple bat script, but I also want it to run at different times a day but don't want it seen in the scheduled tasks folder.

I don't know what OS you're running...

You can use the AT command in W2K - this will enable you to schedule something without having it appear in the scheduling agent?

C!

Aaron Cake · 09-20-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freestyler
we've tried the whole don't touch policy, now we ghost the machines once a week and do this.

The problem is that the policy was not inforced. One of our larger customers had a huge problem with different shifts of people completely borking the machines...loading so much crap (ICQ, AIM, Morpheus, Kazaa, Bonzi Buddy, etc.) that we were reloading 10-15 machines a week...Cost them A LOT of money. So they put a clear policy on all the bulliten boards and login script that stated that any unauthorized software would result in immediate termination. Well, all of 1 day later, a machine blew up and I went out to fix it. Surprise surprise, the virus scanner was disabled and there was a copy of Kazaa on the machine (config error allowed the scanner to be disabled...my fault). Enabled the scanner, found MTX virus...user said "all these messages kept coming up so I turned if off"

. They were immediately fired (within 15 minutes) and my service bill was taken from their paycheque.

Haven't had a single problem in the last year after that incident.

freestyler · 09-20-2002, 09:54 AM

yikes, at our current state we dont' have a problem with KaZaa or Morpheus anymore, everyone has realized that we are watching them now. Now they are usin IRC to get the files or AIM Shares. We just want to get rid of the files, for now I guess we are gonna allow them to have their files while on their shift until it becomes a greater problem.

Personally I lean towards the more harsh ways like the termination seen as people have been known to watch South Park episodes while working at the main front information/service desk, which is a no-no.

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