Rage against some stupid things

kraft · 11-02-2004, 12:43 PM

i would like to add this for the French audience

As i see that some of our national associations are coming to see my project...here are informations about me.

I left the school very early (i'm not proud of it) and i'm not self satisfiying with diplomas as it's usual done here.
You could be stupid, useless or whatever but if with diplomas then no one asks you and if you do wrong no one cares. Never seen a more stupid way of doing things.
What is the most important, a bit of paper you gained or buyed in a school or what you are able to do ?
In addition please stop using stupid astrology and graphology.
If those two were really scientific then it wouldn't be stupid things happening on the earth too as for example letting some politicians doing crappy things or choosing wrong people.
I'm really fed up with all this french garbage and habits

nottastocker · 11-03-2004, 02:16 PM

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wizardPC · 11-03-2004, 05:50 PM

see, even the french hate the french!

nottastocker · 11-04-2004, 11:53 AM

dont hate on the french(completely) they've introduced a few great concepts into the world... french kiss for one, the abolishment of the leg shaver, and the retreat formation

im going to hell

kraft · 11-04-2004, 12:11 PM

Lol nottastocker well found your picture

WizardPc i don't hate the French, i hate some of their habits especially in anything that touch the work playground.
Of course it's good to have qualified people to work with, of course it's good to have qualified staff but at least here they are some strange things which are not so normal. For a country that claims to be child of Descartes, it's funny to come to another conclusion.
The entreprises using astrology and graphology is in constant progress.
I was just asking myself how a manager could be so poor in his mind to use those two things that are anything but not science !
The funniest is that the recruiting consulting companies are using this too.
It's a real shame, after that they scratch heads and try to understand how they do fail and how European economy is going straight forward to the chaos. The reply is in the question.

nottastocker · 11-04-2004, 12:30 PM

and just for clarification, i really dont have anything against the french, usually have the same worlds views as the 'average' frenchman, but it is just wa too easy to rip on certain targets

btw, how long have you known english? for someone whose natural language is french, and trying a language as different as english, it is surprisingly good

kraft · 11-04-2004, 02:06 PM

lol never mind, i understand and i'm no chauvinist.

I learned English 3 years at school and it was in 1983 nothing more but thank you for your comment about the language level.....wow 1983 this is the ages

Spaghetti · 11-04-2004, 05:26 PM

I was wondering about the language thing too - you left school early, but still managed to have a good grasp of English....?? That would never happen the other way round in England.....
I've been sort of learning French on/off for a while now, and I've realised what a difficult and messed up language English must be for most French people. When I was in France, I was also surprised at how few of the younger generation speak English. In fact, English was almost kind of dirty.....even in a ski resort.
Still, just received this in the post today. £50 regular retail price, but I got it for £20 new. Well, sort of new - box got a little bashed in the post, but ***** it, so cheap and accesible

kraft · 11-04-2004, 07:19 PM

Ok for the English this language was fascinating me just as the German too.
The message is that sometimes passion is more usefull and powerfull than any other school or mean of learning, this applies to anything like language, mechanics, computing or whatever

Younger generation do not speak English just because of other habits.
Remember maybe fifteen or twenty years ago, the French was with one 'beret' a kind of soft hat, the 'baguette' (bread) under the arm and a stinky cheese lol

Those generations were parents of the youngers and those old generations used to have a big opinion on their status in the eyes of the world.
In their thoughts it was the others that should come to speak French.
A french going to foreign countries, in this time, was going with a stinky cheese, a 'saucisson sec' in the luggage and nothing else than French in mind as language. So the youngs didn't had a good model on which they could build a future except the one explained before, this could explain why. For now i believe that fortunately the internet spreading the smallest corner of the earth will help people to reach another dimension. It will be probably hard for old generations to follow this standardization but in the end the level of languages and knowledge should be average everywhere.