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Old 07-14-2005, 12:58 PM   #31
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I dont like that people think that just because they confessed sins of their families in church that they are somehow "redeeming" their honor or something. Cuz they arent. Feel bad for what you had no control over, but asking for forgiveness for an unforgiveable offense is a crutch many use in religion. Makes it very appealing to anyone where as long as you BELIEVE you are regretful that it makes everything ok. Well it doesnt. Had the white peeple who did the lynchin apologized you think they would have been thanked and forgiven or lynched themselves?

And whatever, same county, same state, different churches, almost same denominations...cant agree on whether Jesus was white or black or tan...most dont even think its an arguement that Jesus was white. HE WAS WHITE they say. And thats not blatant racism?
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:16 PM   #32
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Quote: Originally Posted by sdashiki
I dont like that people think that just because they confessed sins of their families in church that they are somehow "redeeming" their honor or something. Cuz they arent. Feel bad for what you had no control over, but asking for forgiveness for an unforgiveable offense is a crutch many use in religion. Makes it very appealing to anyone where as long as you BELIEVE you are regretful that it makes everything ok. Well it doesnt. Had the white peeple who did the lynchin apologized you think they would have been thanked and forgiven or lynched themselves?

To me it just sounds like their reaching out and trying to make amends. (Not much else you can do unless you can reanimate them.)
Also sounds like the victim's families were happy to hear it as well.
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...most dont even think its an arguement that Jesus was white. HE WAS WHITE they say. And thats not blatant racism?

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"All S.C. whites, whether they participated in lynchings or not, bear responsibility for the prejudices of the past, Dorn said. “Tonight I need deliverance from that history!”

A blanket statement saying that all people of a race are responsible for something wether they are or not.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:24 PM   #33
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Only thats someones opinion like my posts.

Asking for slavery forgiveness in a small hick town in South Carolina where a high profile black lynching took place, does not affect anyone but those in the congregation who were there...seems "DORN" needs deliverance for himself. I dont think he cares about the people/families effected by the racism of past. He only cares about his own salvation.

When it comes to the south, we are dealing with a mentality that wanted to secede from the Union and goto war over slavery... just cuz we are 3-4 generations away from that, doesnt change the mentality of the south, believe i live in florida (the least south of the southern states, eventhough it is the southernest)
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Only thats someones opinion like my posts.

Asking for slavery forgiveness in a small hick town in South Carolina where a high profile black lynching took place, does not affect anyone but those in the congregation who were there...seems "DORN" needs deliverance for himself. I dont think he cares about the people/families effected by the racism of past. He only cares about his own salvation.

When it comes to the south, we are dealing with a mentality that wanted to secede from the Union and goto war over slavery... just cuz we are 3-4 generations away from that, doesnt change the mentality of the south, believe i live in florida (the least south of the southern states, eventhough it is the southernest)

My point is, from what I read, Dorn doesn't need forgiveness.

I don't doubt that the South still has a wide racist streak. On the other hand things can change quicker than you think. I live in South Boston, once an epicenter for such turmoil. (Forced busing,etc). Busing in particular stained the town quite a bit. Things have changed quite a bit since I was in high school when my black friends wouldn't dare come over when invited not matter how much I tried to convince them they'd be cool there.

To be perfectly honest, the first time I ever saw a black person, in person, I was probably around 4 or 5 yrs old. Someone said, "He look, a monkey". Heard lot's of **** like that and much worse (late 70s mind you). Even at that age it seemed like bs to judge someone you never met based on their looks.

So not too long after on a family trip to a beach, I saw a black kid around my age. So I went over to see what all the hoopla was about. I kind of got that impression back from him too. Didn't take us long to figure we weren't that different. We ended up playing together all day building castles and whatnot. That was pretty much that.

(Funny, wonder what conclusions I would have drawn if he was a bully or didn't like white people)
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