Reduce shutdown time?

Nola111 · 07-24-2007, 10:42 AM

I've been tweaking away to get a good fast bootup time (WinXP Pro), and I have finally achieved one I'm happy with.

Now, shutting down takes a long time (almost 35-40 secs.) I have applied the registry tweaks for reducing the app and services timeouts (HungAppTimeout, WaitToKillApp, etc, etc) but it has not reduced my shutdown time, so something else must be making it hang.

Is there anything else I can do to reduce my shutdown time? I always close all programs before shutting down. I wish there were some app that analyzed shutdowns the way Bootvis analyzes bootups.

Marassa · 07-24-2007, 11:11 AM

Why do you care about shutdown time? I usually just walk away after initiating the shutdown and let it shut down in my absence.

RedGTiVR6 · 07-24-2007, 11:47 AM

My shut down time is a few seconds at best. I want to make sure that everything shuts down without a problem so that when I'm away from the car, the screen isn't hung on so everyone can see it.

I also don't want to come back after a movie and find my car dead.

It's a good idea to pay attention to these kinds of things.

How many programs do you have running in the back ground once your PC starts up, Nola111?

Nola111 · 07-24-2007, 02:20 PM

Marassa, as Red indicated, I like to know for sure 100% that it shutdown without issue, not to mention people being able to see the monitor with Windows shutdown splash screen on it

Red, I've performed many tweaks to ensure that very few apps and services are running in the background. I'd say I have 15 or so PROCESSES running, 0 applications, and 10 - 15 services (only the absolutely necessary ones).

I used that little "TuneXP" app to speed up my system. It helped quite a bit, but somewhere in the process, something happened that has slowed down my shutdown time.

RedGTiVR6 · 07-24-2007, 04:08 PM

there is a windows program that you can download that can scan on boot up to see what's taking so long...not sure about shut-down though.

i'm not at my pc right now though so @ can't look it up and the name has escaped me....bootviz or something of the nature. you might give it a try to see what's holding it up.

ShawJohn · 07-24-2007, 04:29 PM

bootvis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BootVis

Try disabling your network hardware and see what its like then... Sounds like it could be waiting to disconnect from something.

Nola111 · 07-24-2007, 04:32 PM

I thought BootVis only looked at bootup stats. Ok, I'll give it a try... I already have it on my pc. (I mentioned it in my original post

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Marassa · 07-24-2007, 10:53 PM

Ok, I see now. With my G4, the conspicuous part of the shutdown passes fairly fast, I'm still in the car by that time, even if I'm in a hurry to leave. The small red "system off" hourglass can blink for some time yet but it's not all that conspicuous and when it's on I can be sure the system WILL shutdown within one minute, gracefully or not.

In the future, I am planning to make a cover for my G4 making it look like there's nothing there

bambam · 07-25-2007, 05:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nola111

I've been tweaking away to get a good fast bootup time (WinXP Pro), and I have finally achieved one I'm happy with.

Now, shutting down takes a long time (almost 35-40 secs.) I have applied the registry tweaks for reducing the app and services timeouts (HungAppTimeout, WaitToKillApp, etc, etc) but it has not reduced my shutdown time, so something else must be making it hang.

Is there anything else I can do to reduce my shutdown time? I always close all programs before shutting down. I wish there were some app that analyzed shutdowns the way Bootvis analyzes bootups.

I just completed my new carpc system and used a custom nLite'd XP ISO that I got down to 270M. My boot time from power on to the XP screen is 18 seconds and my shutdown is probably about 3-5 seconds. I have my network connection disabled in the device list and only enable it when I need it (remote desktop, gps construction updates, etc.) and I tweaked the services.

If you're really hung on shutdown, try creating a shortcut on your desktop with the command

shutdown -s -f -t 00

and see it that makes a difference.

Personally, I don't really care about shutdown time. I am using an Opus power supply and have it set to stay on for 25 minutes after power off which is perfect for me. It keeps the system running while I gas up or go into the store. If I want an immediate shutdown or the monitor off, I manually do it. Hasn't failed me yet.

Nola111 · 07-25-2007, 10:43 AM

I actually have a shutdown shortcut on my desktop, but I don't have the -f switch in there, and I have only one zero instead of two. The -f switch is to force closure of any hanging apps, right? I'll try that. And I assume there's no difference between 0 vs. 00?

bambam · 07-25-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nola111

And I assume there's no difference between 0 vs. 00?

Yes, you are right

And I forgot to add, I had the Opus tech guys modify the power supply so it didn't adhere to the USB standardization of power on. I was worried about power drain.

tn6478 · 07-25-2007, 01:41 PM

make a switch and just cut the guy off. that what I do but then i been letting the system shutdown on its on for about 1 year now and i haven't had a problem. Using EWF and minlogon somehow slow down the shut down time.

crooper · 09-25-2007, 05:04 PM

I use minlogon and EWF and my computer just shuts off. From pulse to off is about 5 seconds if not less. I think it's EWF that does it, because it doesn't need to write anything to the drive upon shutdown.