Input tool using MouseWheel - Page 10

Cris · 11-08-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zorro

Looks hot man, even with the poor pictre quality.

Yes, there is an option in the configuration called "SlowDown" the higher the value the less sensitive it gets.

Thanks! What can I say...Samsung's ideea about 1.3 MP...

Good to know Zorro. Actaully now it works preety well, as I had this problem when I tested with it with the actual encoder. But now with the button on, it works well, as it's bigger in size, and it slows it down a little.

Unfortunatly I have a new problem now...I don't know, it may be something I did, but I get this error when MWI starts...clicking "OK" wil only make it appear again...

zorro · 11-08-2005, 04:55 PM

This is a bug in the Configuration where the MWI window is set to Royalbue instead of Royalblue. If you correct this setting, the problem will be history.

Cris · 11-08-2005, 05:09 PM

Fixed it the old fashioned way: uninstall and install again.

I still find it a little tricky to configure. Will this be easier to do in a future release?

zorro · 11-08-2005, 05:23 PM

Suggestions?

Cris · 11-08-2005, 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zorro

Suggestions?

Sorry, I meant in terms of configuring it to do stuff like toggling forward/backwards in a song (so far this is the only thing missing), not configuring the actual applications, which is pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Among many things, I like the fact that when you press next song for example, for a couple of seconds MWI remembers the previous position, so if you want to switch to another song you can easily do that by pressing it again. (sorry, couldn't explain myself better...English is not my native language)

How do you get ridd of the voice? I've set all things in the configure menu regarding voice to false, but the voice is still there? How can I close the dictionary? I didn't find any use for those letters yet...(in MWI that is...

) I'd find it more usefull if it were only a task switching operation.

Also, I noticed that if you set it in configuration so that MWI toggles the volume, when toggling through the applications in MWI (so not through their options; for example: Frodo player-media player-roadrunner....) the volume aslo changes. When entering the options for an aplication this problem disapears.
Same thing happens when in dictionary of switching applications.

I've used this app everyday for a few days now, and it's ABSOLUTLY FANTASTIC!!! I like it so much I use it on the home pc as well!
Zorro, you're a genius!

zorro · 11-09-2005, 02:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Cris

Sorry, I meant in terms of configuring it to do stuff like toggling forward/backwards in a song ...

Configuring an application needs the knowledge of the right messages/keys to be sent. for example: If you like add menu item to control FrodoPlayer, you simply choose SendMessage and one of the following numbers in params:
2048 - Previous
2049 - Rewind
2050 - Play
2051 - Pause
2052 - Stop
2053 - FastForward
2054 - Next
2055 - Shuffle
2056 - Repeat
2057 - VolumeUp
2058 - Volume Down
2059 - Mute
2060 - goDVDPlayer | Menu
2061 - goRadio | Title
2062 - goXM | Eject DVD
2063 - Playlist Down
2064 - Playlist Up
2065 - Dirlist Up
2066 - Dirlist Down
2067 - Fullscreen Toggle
2068 - FrodoPlayer Exit | Unload DVD
2069 - Standby
2070 - Hibernate
2071 - Shutdown
2072 - Restart
2073 - Log Off
2074 - Lock Computer
2075 - Mode Forward
2076 - Mode Back
2077 - Mode Change
2078 - Vis Mode Cycle
2079 - Vis Mode Change
2080 - Mini Toggle
2081 - Playlist Select
2082 - Preset
2083 - Info Save
2084 - Add Favorite
2085 - Volume Up 2
2086 - Volume Down 2
2087 - Dirlist Select
2088 - Minimize

To add FFWD/RWD to MediaPlayer also use SendMessage and set this parameters:
"0x111;18812" - Rewind
"0x111;18813" - FastForward

On RoadRunner you have to use SendCopyData and choose a string from the file "Skin Commands.txt" which is applied in RoadRunners installation directory,as there are (an excerpt):
"BROWSE" - Goes into the currently selected directory
"VISU" - Starts the current visualization plugin in Winamp (NOT YET IMPLEMENTED)
"SHUFFLE/REPEAT"- Cycles through the Shuffle/Repeat settings (Music only)
"MIXER" - Brings up the Mixer screen (mixer.skin)
"MUTE" - Cycles the Mute state of the master output line of the sound card
"MASTERMUTE" - Same as "MUTE"
"VOL-" - Decreases the current master volume output level
"VOL+" - Increases the current master volume output level
"EJECT" - Open/Close the door of first CDROM drive in the machine
"PREV" - Plays Previous track in the playlist
"PREV2" - Similates the Prev of some audio systems -- 1 click restarts song, next click = "PREV"
"PLAY" - Cycles through a Play/Pause state of current song. (RR Only

When Radio is ON, acts as "PRESETMODE"
"NEXT" - Plays NEXT track in the playlist
"STOP" - Stops the playback of current song. (RR Only

When Radio is ON, acts as "SCAN"
"PAUSE" - Pauses Music/Video or Mutes FM/XM/SIRIUS respectively
"RESUME" - Resumes Music/Video or UnMutes FM/XM/SIRIUS respectively
"GAMMA" - Switches the current Gamma Mode (Day/Night)
"LIGHTING" - Same as "GAMMA?" ?
"DESTINATOR" - Runs the Destinator GPS (now Map Monkey), using setting 'destinatorpath' in RR.INI
"MAPPOINT" - Loads Mappoint Internal Map Screen (NOT YET IMPLEMENTED)
"EXTERNAL" - Runs the External GPS application using the 'gpspath' and 'gpsname' settings from RR.INI
"CLOSE" - Closes the application currently open in the current screen

BTW: If you configure only 1 menu item for an application, it will be executed immediatelly (no menu pops up). So you're able to configure the media control buttons (Play/Pause, FWD/RWD...) of your favourite player directly in the bar. This makes it more comfortable to use, like the red buttons below:

Configuring an application sometimes needs deeper knowledge of how the app is working and the best source is to ask the developer, cause he knows best.

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How do you get ridd of the voice? I've set all things in the configure menu regarding voice to false, but the voice is still there?

Set UseVoice to false and restart MWI (although, I found a bug in this

, so I'will put an updated version online today).

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How can I close the dictionary? I didn't find any use for those letters yet...(in MWI that is...

) I'd find it more usefull if it were only a task switching operation.

You don't need to close the dictionary, it disapears if you type ahead and no more words were found. The focus to switch to the dictionary is set via timer; If you set it's value to 0, no switching takes place.
I plan do make a task switcher in AppControl someday.

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Also, I noticed that if you set it in configuration so that MWI toggles the volume, when toggling through the applications in MWI (so not through their options; for example: Frodo player-media player-roadrunner....) the volume aslo changes. When entering the options for an aplication this problem disapears.
Same thing happens when in dictionary of switching applications.

I don't know if this is the same but on my PowerMate the Volume window pops up if I hold down the knob very, very short. This is because the doubleclick is supposed to open the volume setting. To avoid this, hold the button a bit longer.

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I've used this app everyday for a few days now, and it's ABSOLUTLY FANTASTIC!!! I like it so much I use it on the home pc as well!
Zorro, you're a genius!

Thank you, you're welcome

Cris · 11-09-2005, 07:05 AM

Wow thanks Zorro, for the detailed explinations.

and for this incredible software.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cris

One thing though. As I said, when using MWI, the scroll is also active, either you're on an internet page, or in winamp. Is there anyway to make the scroll wheel only for MWI, when MWI is running?
For example, when in winamp, shuffling through MWI's menu witht he scroll wheel, it also togglles the volume in Winamp. Same thing when you're winamp's playlist. Using when scroll wheel in MWI also means you're surfing through the palylist...

This also reappeared somehow...

zorro · 11-09-2005, 07:37 AM

On Winamp use action SendKey and as param set the key you want to send. For example:
X - Play
C - Pause
B - Stop
N -Next song
Z - Previous Song
..
..
Alt, G - Show equalizer
Alt, L - Show playlist

Note that combined keys have to be separated with ","; If you need a comma use COMMA instead.

Please re-download the "Dll's only" zip and copy them over your installation.

lagunatl2k · 11-09-2005, 10:09 AM

Zorro I think you app is the perfect solution for the problem they have with osk for iguidance I wonder if there is a way they could intergrate your great app with it .I was trying to make girder call up your app and use it that way but I have had no luck

zorro · 11-09-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by lagunatl2k

Zorro I think you app is the perfect solution for the problem they have with osk for iguidance I wonder if there is a way they could intergrate your great app with it .I was trying to make girder call up your app and use it that way but I have had no luck

There are two things you have to care for:
1. You have to enable the SendMessage plugin in Grider
2. You have to adapt the IR command strings to your remote

One thing though: The GML file I've published is for Grider 3.3. I'm not sure but I guess it won't work wit 4.x

Another thing to mention: maybe it's easier to rip off a wheel mouse for 9,95 and use this instead (Cris has a nice sample). The handling with a mouse wheel is decades better than a remote, trust me

Getting old... forgot the pic:

lagunatl2k · 11-09-2005, 10:43 AM

Sorry if I missed something where did you post the gml for girder ?

zorro · 11-09-2005, 10:49 AM

mmhm...

http://phoco.net/__Bin/MouseWheelInput.gml

Cris · 11-09-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zorro

On Winamp use action SendKey and as param set the key you want to send. For example:
X - Play
C - Pause
B - Stop
N -Next song
Z - Previous Song
..
..
Alt, G - Show equalizer
Alt, L - Show playlist

Note that combined keys have to be separated with ","; If you need a comma use COMMA instead.

Please re-download the "Dll's only" zip and copy them over your installation.

Thanks for the extra explination. That link you gave about configuring it is great.

I did that, restarted MWI and it wouldn't work. But now, after I restarted the pc it works fine.

On the other hand, with MWI loaded, the actual mouse goes mad...

For example, the left click opens the folder properties, the scroll wheel acts like a zoom tool...wierd...I close MWI and it works just fine. These kind of things happen very rare, but they do...it only happened to me two or three times since I use it.

zorro · 11-09-2005, 01:38 PM

I hardly believe that this is because MWI coz it's only monitoring mouse actions but it doesn't "inject" any mouse signals.
This might be another problem: If you're using keystrokes within AppControl, it will ensure that the addressed window is put into foreground before it sends the keys. If for any reason another window gets focused as AppCo sends the keys, your system may go nuts.
Therefore, the far better solution is to send messages, cause they can't go to another window, focused or not.

Cris · 11-09-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zorro

I hardly believe that this is because MWI coz it's only monitoring mouse actions but it doesn't "inject" any mouse signals.
This might be another problem: If you're using keystrokes within AppControl, it will ensure that the addressed window is put into foreground before it sends the keys. If for any reason another window gets focused as AppCo sends the keys, your system may go nuts.
Therefore, the far better solution is to send messages, cause they can't go to another window, focused or not.

That may explain why it doesn't happen all the time. To send messages I need to know the parametres, right? So in order to make CF work, I should contact David, and ask him to send them over?