What do you use -hibernate, sleep or SD ? - Page 2

treetop777 · 07-18-2007, 05:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6

It's no different than unplugging your TV, PC, etc. while not using it even when it's off to conserve energy.

Electronics draw a small amount of power even when 'turned off', this includes computers.

I've run the M1 and now the DSATX. I don't drive my car for days on end (sometimes I'll go a week solid without ever starting the car). NO MATTER WHAT, if I don't put the car on a trickle charge, the battery WILL be drained within a few days.

It's not a product not working as it should, it's a fact of electronics.

Hello Red, maybe what is confusing (and might be wrong) is the analogy that M-2's "hard off" is like "unplugging a tv from the wall" - maybe we need to stop using that analogy.

i don't believe that an appliance or electronics can consume power when unplugged; not from the original power source at least; a reserve inside itself maybe.

RedGTiVR6 · 07-18-2007, 05:13 PM

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Everyone has something they spend their money on, for those of us on this forum, CarPCs just happen to be one of those things.

brodgar · 07-19-2007, 05:28 AM

I don't have a problem with this as my truck is fitted with two batteries, and I carry an emergency start pack in the back.My pc is set to hibernate.

What I don't understand is the difference between hibernate and sleep. As the pc is basically in the same "shut down" state won't it consume the same small amount of power in either mode?

RedGTiVR6 · 07-19-2007, 08:18 AM

Even with two batteries and an emergency start pack....once you drain your batteries pas a point (unless they are deep cycle) they are shot and will never hold a full charge again.

As for the difference between the two states: http://www.terranovum.com/projects/e...y_v_hiber.html

Nola111 · 07-19-2007, 10:39 AM

Hibernate here. If I know I won't be starting the car for more than a few days, I shutdown the pc, and UNPLUG the power cable from it!

meth68 · 07-19-2007, 07:58 PM

I finally got my car back and I have been messing with the power settings. Here is what I have going on. My M2-ATX is set to 5sec/2hour.

Here are the 3 options I tried so far and the results.

When I set my pc to "when I press the power button" in control panel to standby It will seem to work fine, I havent tested it after the 2 hours (about to do that in an hour or so) but the issue I have is when I get back in the car and start it, touch the screen it comes back from standby but streetdeck is closed?

When I set my pc to "when I press the power button" in control panel to hibernate and enable hibernate in the tab. I shut off the car, waited about 2minutes, started it back up and it would not boot correctly.

When I set my pc to "when I press the power button" in control panel to shutdown it seemed to work fine. I had it set like this yesterday, after 2 hours everything was shutoff just as planned.

Now my question is this, if you set it for standby, so after 5 seconds after shutting off my car the pc should go into standby, and after sitting for 2 hours it should shut down. If this is the case exactly what process does it go about when shutting down, after the 2hours is it shut down correctly or is it like a cold boot like you yanked the plug?

Thanks in advance.

treetop777 · 07-19-2007, 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meth68

Now my question is this, if you set it for standby, so after 5 seconds after shutting off my car the pc should go into standby, and after sitting for 2 hours it should shut down. If this is the case exactly what process does it go about when shutting down, after the 2hours is it shut down correctly or is it like a cold boot like you yanked the plug?

Good question; i'm interested in seing your results. I bet you it (M-2) just cuts power abroptly after the 2 hours. Ideally it should hybernate from standy then cut power..

Wait a minute - i think that can be done from the windows power settings..let me go play!

meth68 · 07-19-2007, 09:20 PM

I am not sure how it shut down but right now I have my pc set to standby. It stayed on standby for atleast 10 minutes (I tested it) then i left the car alone for 2.5 hours I just checked and my gps light is now off so the pc is shut down. But I have no idea if it was shut down like a hard boot or shut down properly?

treetop777 · 07-19-2007, 09:45 PM

Turn the key and see how it come back alive; if it boot from scratch i think you can assume M-2 pulled the plug (or better say "cut power") while it (the puter) was still in standby.

meth68 · 07-20-2007, 09:14 AM

Well standby worked, after about 45min I went out started my car and it came back from standby. Tried again after 2 hours and the pc was off.

treetop777, I know its powered off. My question was how its getting to that power off stage. Is it smart enough to do the legit shutdown method or is it just cutting the power and risking corrupting some system files and such.

Serialk1llr · 07-20-2007, 09:26 AM

Hibernate. I drive daily. However I usually do a full shutdown/restart in my routine every week to just freshen things up. But yeah, like many others, I do a full shutdown if i don't plan on driving it daily.

bluebird · 07-20-2007, 10:24 AM

It's already been hinted at, but my idea would be to have a dead switch somewhere between the battery and the pc, so that you can not only shut down but also "unplug it from the wall" if you know you are going to park up for a week. I walk to work and can only drive a/h so this is a feature I am attempting to incorporate into the design phase.

MibMib · 07-20-2007, 11:28 AM

Quote:

It's already been hinted at, but my idea would be to have a dead switch somewhere between the battery and the pc, so that you can not only shut down but also "unplug it from the wall" if you know you are going to park up for a week. I walk to work and can only drive a/h so this is a feature I am attempting to incorporate into the design phase.

Oh , i think , you'll need a very powerfull switch, i don't know where to get it, do you know? The best way is using powerfull relay which drives by small switch

what do you think about it ?

mst · 07-20-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MibMib

Oh , i think , you'll need a very powerfull switch, i don't know where to get it, do you know? The best way is using powerfull relay which drives by small switch

what do you think about it ?

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bluebird · 07-20-2007, 06:41 PM

Call me primitive, but I was thinking about two screws and a thickish copper plate for a switch, or a simple way to disconnect from the battery (my battery is in the boot, so perhaps a simpler option).