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09-09-2009, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston
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Opus on the way
Well; after replacing nearly every other component in the system; I order a 150 watt opus to replace my M2-ATX.
I am getting occasional BSOD; I show some disk errors in the log; but I have tried multiple disks. Latest is Seagate EE25; and even that is exhibiting issues.
Wish me luck.....
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09-15-2009, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by wpiman 
Well; after replacing nearly every other component in the system; I order a 150 watt opus to replace my M2-ATX.
I am getting occasional BSOD; I show some disk errors in the log; but I have tried multiple disks. Latest is Seagate EE25; and even that is exhibiting issues.
Wish me luck.....
Keep us updated I think this is my problem, I have been getting BSOD and sometimes on bootup disk errors. I think its my power supply but rather not spend the money of thats not the problem.
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09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 12,911
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Question for both of you:
How is your hard drive mounted? What is it mounted to? Did you try to insulate the HDD from shock with pads or bungees or springs or whatever else?
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09-17-2009, 10:30 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: May 2007
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I'm on the fence about getting another PSU, I'd probably go for the Opus 120 because sometimes I have... odd errors. Let us know how this works out.
I don't have my HDD mounted at all. There's opportunity for it to move around slightly, but not much, I don't think it does though. As for shock absorption, none. I do have Winamp set to cache the entire song to memory though so I think that would reduce the chances of heads crashing on the drive.
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09-17-2009, 11:09 AM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elsewhere
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If the hard drive isn't mounted to anything, it is moving around.
If you're getting disc errors, skipping music and other issues related to the HDD, then your HDD is probably shifting around as you drive, causing the issues.
Caching music isn't going to help you at all if there's a head crash while WinAmp is in the process of caching the song.
The fact is that Windoze tends to access the HDD often, whether it's system files, paging files, driver files, software attempting to update, screen saver kicking in, etc.
I your HDD is floating freely in your vehicle install, you are simply asking for trouble.
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09-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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Admin. Don't bug or I'll byte.
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Corning, NY
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What system are you using? I've recently been reading that the M2 doesn't have enough power on the 5 volt rail for the Intel 945.
If it isn't a power issue, then wiring is my bet. Did you use the same wiring or wire harnesses when swapping out all of the components?
-HDD cables
-Power cables
-USB cables or hubs
Did it BSOD when you run a stripped down system with effectively only the computer in the mix (no external devices or hubs)? You don't have a PCI card, do you?
Other possibility is interference from electronics such as the screen or power supply.
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09-17-2009, 07:11 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11
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Here's a update on mine..
First my harddrive is mounted in my mo-co-so case which is mounted solid in my car, I don't think my hard drive is the problem.
The other day I redid my power, ground and ing. wires, I got rid of the power plugs that come with the case and now use those barrel plug crip on connectors (a male and female one on each wire so I can take the computer out easy.)
No far it is working great, no more hard drive errors or blue screens of death.
Crossing my fingers that its good to go.
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09-17-2009, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11
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Here's a update on mine..
First my harddrive is mounted in my mo-co-so case which is mounted solid in my car, I don't think my hard drive is the problem.
The other day I redid my power, ground and ing. wires, I got rid of the power plugs that come with the case and now use those barrel plug crip on connectors (a male and female one on each wire so I can take the computer out easy.)
No far it is working great, no more hard drive errors or blue screens of death.
Crossing my fingers that its good to go.
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09-23-2009, 09:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston
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Quote: Originally Posted by mat420 
Here's a update on mine..
First my harddrive is mounted in my mo-co-so case which is mounted solid in my car, I don't think my hard drive is the problem.
The other day I redid my power, ground and ing. wires, I got rid of the power plugs that come with the case and now use those barrel plug crip on connectors (a male and female one on each wire so I can take the computer out easy.)
No far it is working great, no more hard drive errors or blue screens of death.
Crossing my fingers that its good to go.
Oh God; I got mine from mocoso (can't recommend); but I've replaced nearly every part. I have the power supply and just need a good solution to mount it now.
How are people mounting these? (OPus 120)
This power supply looks much beefier than the m2atx. Lots of heavy duties inducters and far less reliance of caps.
The mocoso includes vibration dampeners. I have a segate ee2.5; was mounted flat. Will do a vertical mount this time.
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09-23-2009, 10:22 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 372
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Quote: Originally Posted by wpiman 
Oh God; I got mine from mocoso (can't recommend); but I've replaced nearly every part. I have the power supply and just need a good solution to mount it now.
How are people mounting these? (OPus 120)
This power supply looks much beefier than the m2atx. Lots of heavy duties inducters and far less reliance of caps.
The mocoso includes vibration dampeners. I have a segate ee2.5; was mounted flat. Will do a vertical mount this time.
me too ..have replaced almost all part form them !
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Carputer:
Psu: DCX6.360-H
Mobo: Intel D945GCLF2
Ssd: ssd ocz solid state 30gb
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Sound card : asus xonar d2 pci
Fan : one nexus and one noctua
case : i'm building a new one
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09-23-2009, 11:29 PM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Just an FYI...
I have a mo-co-so case and I'm less than impressed with the quality of the power connector. The pins and sockets seem to be so loose in the connector shells that it takes quite a bit of wiggling the connectors to get them to mate well enough to go together. I also had one pin (or is it socket? don't remember) in the case connector that was damaged when I got it and it wants to back out and make intermittent or no contact when I connect things unless I'm real careful. I was in a hurry to get something working for a trip so I just made do and its kind of stayed that way. I've been saying I'm going to toss the connector and just use a pigtail with crimp lugs to match my distribution block. I'll figure out some way to put a strain relief in place of the connector. Mine is one of the earlier units with the too-big hole for the connector so that creates issues as well.
Now for the legal disclaimers before I suggest something: You don't need or want to push very hard so this isn't the place to demonstrate how much lifting weights has done for your arms and upper body! AND DON"T USE SOMETHING POINTED that will go into the sockets and spread the metal apart so they don't grip the pins any more. Make sure the power is off before sticking metal things into any connectors. And finally don't say you weren't warned and blame me if you screw it up.
There are lots of things that could cause the problems described here, but I'd at least check to see if any pins or sockets are noticeably further back into the connector than the others or if you can push any back.
Alan
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09-23-2009, 11:48 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 625
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my system has a loose harddrive, it rests in a hole stuffed with foam. works well, is probably a fire hazard though. i never had a problem with that though, my freezups came from my pci cards, since there is no case they just flop freely and the first bump will cause the system to freeze.
for now, i just wadded up cardboard and wedged it between the two cards... the outward force is enough to keep the cards stable. i probably should think of a better solution though, im totally relying on the pci sockets for support.
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09-24-2009, 08:28 AM
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11
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Quote: Originally Posted by Alanh 
Just an FYI...
I have a mo-co-so case and I'm less than impressed with the quality of the power connector. The pins and sockets seem to be so loose in the connector shells that it takes quite a bit of wiggling the connectors to get them to mate well enough to go together. I also had one pin (or is it socket? don't remember) in the case connector that was damaged when I got it and it wants to back out and make intermittent or no contact when I connect things unless I'm real careful. I was in a hurry to get something working for a trip so I just made do and its kind of stayed that way. I've been saying I'm going to toss the connector and just use a pigtail with crimp lugs to match my distribution block. I'll figure out some way to put a strain relief in place of the connector. Mine is one of the earlier units with the too-big hole for the connector so that creates issues as well.
This is exactly what my problem was, and it seems the harddrive is the first problem with loose power connectors. I would suggest to anyone out there with a mo-co case or thinking about a mo-co, replace the crappy power connectors with something more solid.
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09-25-2009, 01:20 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 21
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Quote: Originally Posted by mat420 
This is exactly what my problem was, and it seems the harddrive is the first problem with loose power connectors. I would suggest to anyone out there with a mo-co case or thinking about a mo-co, replace the crappy power connectors with something more solid.
Well; the power connector I got from them (MOCOSO) never even worked in the first place. I drilled holes in the case (that I have replaced) and ran the wire directly to the Power supply. The new opus has a connector so I will be using that.
Was thinking of hot melting alot of the wires together as well to ensure they stay snug.
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09-26-2009, 04:33 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 21
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Installed and operating; haven't really taken it on a drive yet; I'll give some results this week.
Also mounted the HD vertically while I was in there.
Question on the jumpers; I went with the factory default of jumper 5 on JU1 which was 12.5 on and 10.5 off. I got the 10 second flash; so I removed the jumper to be on at 10.5 and off a 7.5.
I measure my voltage on at 12.2 on the ignition wire. Is there any reason I can't leave this where it is? Should I try the inbetween voltage on 11 on and 9.5 off?
Don't really feel like opening the box again.
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