Thanks for all the replies
Ok so ill steer clear of the 200w thingo.
And Yes the board boots off a 250W PSU, HD ticks over even installed windows on it when the 250W psu
however when i connected it to the morex PSU HD ticks like its trying to turn over but just sits there ticking (yes i have disconnected the HD)
Im not using any other hardware other then the Morex Car kit and the EPIA board but even without the Carnetix i should still be able to boot the board, Engine on or off it dont go, I have seen the other forums where they have the same issues but with no answer why.
I called the place i bought the board and the PSU and they are telling me that 60W wont power that board and a HDD, I told em they are full of it and just dont want a RMA on there hands.
But i would like to get this going without changing PSUs so to my previous question does anyone think this should boot without a carnetix, my thought would be yes but hey my luck with this car project is going down hill