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08-30-2001, 12:10 AM
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 4
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12VDC to 12VDC require an adapter
My project is new and though I'm handy with a screwdriver, knife and electrical tape I don't know much about electricity. Please don't laugh at this stupid question...I would appreciate some help.
I am just starting on my first mp3car project, an HP Omnibook 800 mini-laptop acquired on ebay for $205. Eventually I'm going to mount it in my micro-trunk but for now it lives on the passenger seat to enjoy and test. The AC power adaptor that came with the Omnibook delivers 12V at 3.3 amps.
I went to Radio Shack to get a cigarette lighter adapter that would power the Omnibook directly. They sold me ($59.95) a "Universal Notebook Computer DC Power Adapter" that works like a charm. It runs on 11-16V. You can program the voltage delivery with a selector switch from 9 to 24V DC, it claims a maximum power output of 4 amps. They insisted that this was the only thing they had that would work.
Question 1: Why do I need this thing at all? Why not just run from the cigarette lighter to the DC IN on the laptop? It is 12v to 12v, right?
Question 2: If an adapter/power supply is necessary is $59.95 too much to pay? I have 30 days to return the Radio Shack unit if so. Is there a better/less expensive approach.
Eventually I'm going to mount the lappy in the micro-trunk. There is another 12v cigarette plug back there and a CD changer plug. The car also has two 12v outlets up front. I'm using the mini-laptop as a PDA/on-the-road email checker, etc. so at times it will be convenient/necessary to have it up front.
Thanks in advance for the help on the DC power adapter questions.
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2001 Techno Blue New Beetle
1998 HP Omnibook 800 mini-laptop
PC166,32mb,2gb,WIN95
temporary WIP setup: passenger seat "loose mount"
Radio Shack cassette adapter line input to VW factory head
Radio Shack Universal DC Power Adapter
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08-30-2001, 12:16 AM
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Live and Kickin' 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Houston
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Posts: 1,377
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The car's electrical system can vary between 10 and 14V
that adapter takes that, bumps it up to 16 or 20V, then regulates it down to 12V.
It keeps it at a steady 12V. Hooking it up directly to the car isn't a great idea.
I'm sure there are many other, cheaper ways of doing that. 
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08-30-2001, 08:38 AM
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Retired Admin
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded)
Posts: 2,465
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There may be cheaper ways of doing it, but the current capacity, compactness and reliability of your Rat Shack adapter will be hard to easily beat. I'd stick with the Rat Shack DC-DC.
Do not connect your laptop directly to your car's 12V. That is a very dirty system, and will vary between 8V and 16V. The laptop's power supply is not designed to handle this.
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Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
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