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04-08-2008, 02:26 PM
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#91
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote: Originally Posted by Autockr989 
I'm running the same setup. Except with A03 bios. Try using the windows utility from jetways website under "downloads" (Stated above) It's called winflash. This allows you to flash the bios through windows.
Back to what you stated above about my issue, is it bad to run the system the way I do. I'm not using standby. When I turn the car off, then on, windows or whatever i had running is still showing, so I don't think it's sleeping.
It's not bad - just takes longer to boot.
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04-09-2008, 12:50 AM
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#92
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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Quote: Originally Posted by Autockr989 
Back to what you stated above about my issue, is it bad to run the system the way I do. I'm not using standby. When I turn the car off, then on, windows or whatever i had running is still showing, so I don't think it's sleeping.
That cant happen unless you are using hibernate or sleep, so either you are not explaining it accurately, or you are using hibernate or sleep and dont know it.
Easey to find out;
Control Panel ==> Power Options ==> see what you have checked off.
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04-10-2008, 11:40 PM
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#93
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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Well, that didnt last long :-(
After having some success with finding that item (power boot display = set to onboard) it had been running very stable. Got a normal display every time I booted for a few days.
Today started booting with that "white screen" again. Have to disconnect the monitor and plug it back in (a few times) to get normal video to show up.
This is getting tedious.
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04-11-2008, 03:17 AM
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#94
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 90
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mine hiccupped yesterday too... right when I needed it of course...
had to get an address off of my email while on the road, so I booted while driving, and everything loaded fine, but about 3 seconds into seeing the desktop, the video went black... HD light still blinking etc... so I had to re-boot, and saw the white screen for a second, but then got the computer back, and everything is fine since. That was my first problem of any kind in months.
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04-12-2008, 02:01 AM
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#95
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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At times, when it refuses to reset by unplugging/replugging the vga cable (even after a reboot) and I take the time to go grab a crt monitor and hook it up, I find the driver applet open on the desktop and the text says "Windows can not switch to Twin display mode until a second monitor is connected".
Of course at that point, I have already unplugged the Xenarc and connected the crt so I just unplug the crt and reconnect the xenarc and all is well.
I'd love to think this is a driver thing, but I cant get around the fact that when I get the white screen, its always at boot, and never shows the post. When the machine posts no drivers are loaded (just whatever non volatile stuff that normally resides on rom on the video card should be all that is active then). Now I know we ae talking about onboard graphic in this case, so I would guess that a driver install wouldnt touch the problem, it would have to be at least a bios update thing (and Im already running V04, the newest available).
Alrightythen, when you have tried everything that makes good sense, it's time to start trying things that make no friken sense.
I noticed (during my many trips lugging a crt to connect to this beotch when it refuses to show video) that at times, all I would have to do is connect the crt vga cable, connected to the crt of course, without plugging the crt in to the power outlet, and would still reset the video. (plugging just a vga extension cable in to the mb has no effect).
That got me thinking.
If it at times asks for a second display, and at times just plugging in a second (nonpowered) display resets it so it works, why not make the $%^G#$! little thing happy and let it think a second display is connected at all times ? Could it really hurt at this point?
I tore apart an old monitor and clipped the circut board that the vga cable originates from out. (cant just use the vga cable, cuz that doesnt work, but at times it will reset with the cable is connected to a monitor).
When I get a chance, Im gonna connect that to the DVI port (with an adapter) and see if I can get it to think two displays are connected.
Whatever, clutching at straws at this point.
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Last edited by Jistari; 04-12-2008 at 02:04 AM.
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06-09-2008, 03:11 AM
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#96
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 32
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I too have this board, and for the most parts its great, but the arbitrary boot issue concerns me. I have it all setup on my test bench, and some times it will boot into windows sometimes it wont. Im not sure if its due to temperature, or some other issue.
im using a dvi monitor at this point, the car is 800x600
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06-10-2008, 05:47 AM
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#97
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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Well good luck.
Never solved my issue, to the extent that Im going back to the system vendor and we are going to try a different motherboard. I cant deal with this "having to get out and reset the vga more often than not when starting the system" any more.
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06-10-2008, 02:12 PM
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#98
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Hey, you're trying for the goal by going the other way around, you're crazzzyyyy!
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Miami
Posts: 4,170
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jistari 
Well good luck.
Never solved my issue, to the extent that Im going back to the system vendor and we are going to try a different motherboard. I cant deal with this "having to get out and reset the vga more often than not when starting the system" any more.
Im just glad i didnt go with it..... the headaches this board have caused others would have had me quit the car pc hobby. i dont see how they can sell a board knowing about all these issues.
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06-10-2008, 03:53 PM
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#99
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 90
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I think the only real issues with this board (and yes, they are serious issues) are the loading of the Intel video drivers and how the BIOS handles initial video configurations. Otherwise, I feel that this is one of the most capable CarPc mobos out there. Mine has been running great without any probs since my last post 2 months ago. It is fast as hell, runs cool and has all sorts of connectivity that I need.
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06-10-2008, 04:30 PM
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#100
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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You're killing me Chamber. You are right, its a great board when it runs, shame about the fatal flaw.
Glad you got it running in your system, enjoy.
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06-10-2008, 05:45 PM
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#101
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Posts: 8,862
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Dont forget to add complete incompatibility with almost everything on the market to your list of fatal flaws. I gave this board a fair shot. I tried 2 of them. And the parts worked 100% because same parts in the new MSI motherboard worked perfectly, first time.
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06-10-2008, 06:53 PM
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#102
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 136
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I have the same issue that all in this post, this mother is a ****!!!!! but i writte my research.
After many many many trys to get video back, i can see that the solution for get back video is unplug the mother from atx or turn off the general power of the power supply for 5 minutes or more.
If this not work i need put the ATX cable with green and black wires in short circuit, you can see that the fan start to work but no video and nothing in the screen, do this for 1 minute and after 1 minute stop to shotcircuit the ATX wires and unplug from the general power, again wait for 5 minutes and try to turn on again the mother board and many times it work for restart the video.
when the mother back to life, it work fine for many times, restart and power off and sleep ok.. but some days stop to work and i need to this again.
some times only need cut the power for 5 minutes, but other times i need put in shortcircuit the wires...
i hope this help to some body, and that somebody can discovery how fix this mother not only for a few moments
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07-25-2008, 01:29 AM
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#103
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 239
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Well, Im out.
Went back to the system vendor and he replaced the Jetway with a Fuzzy GM1.
Booted up fine, everything works (only the first day using it but hey.....gotta have a dream right?
Ill update after more use.
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07-27-2008, 02:53 AM
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#104
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Posts: 8,862
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I wonder how many people have switched from this to the fuzzy board... oh well for jetway.
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07-27-2008, 12:19 PM
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#105
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 90
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I will probably be the only J9 board user left.... mine has been flawless for months now...but it was a long road getting here.
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