Winamp randomize in roadrunner

pepsimachine · 06-20-2008, 05:31 PM

I'm running road runner with winamp as my mp3 player. i believe its winamp 2.9.

I have my system set up with the enhanced write filter, from xp embedded, to prevent writes to the OS drive. also, i have hibernate once resume many enabled... this is so the pc boots off of a saved hibernation image every time.

Every time the pc boots, from the same hibernation file, I load up a directory full of mp3s, based on genre... ie, rap, rock, alternative, ost's, etc etc.

When I hit randomize in road runner audio screen, and press play, it plays the songs in the same 'random' order every time, even though its supposed to be random. like, it starts on track 10, then goes to 54, then to 15, then 96, then 38, and on and on.... but it goes through this set order every time it starts. I believe this is a winamp issue, and not so much road runner. I notiecd a randomize option in road runner setup, is this just to toggle the starting mode of the randomize to on or off?

does anyone know of a program or plugin for winamp to *completly* randomize my playlist? I'm tired of listening to the same 10 songs even though ive got thousands on the external drive.

treetop777 · 06-21-2008, 09:50 AM

Strange, i don't see a "randomize" command in skincommands. It sounds like u are using a (custom) command to rearrange the tracks and then play them in shuffle mode; it seams to me that if you rearrange the tracks, then you would play then in order (turn-off shuffle) but I'm not sure..

Arrow · 06-21-2008, 01:15 PM

I remember reading somewhere that when winamp starts, it determines a random order for the entire playlist as to not play the same song twice in it's "random" pattern. Basically it generates a shuffled playlist, then plays that. Since you are resuming to the exact same place every time, winamp is in the same place in it's shuffled playlist and continues to play from there. Now, I'm not sure if winamp generates this playlist on launch, or when you turn on shuffle. Try to turn off shuffle then turn it back on.

Arrow · 06-21-2008, 01:21 PM

Yeah, I tested it. It generates the shuffled playlist when you click shuffle. It creates a new one every time you turn on shuffle. So, turning shuffle off, then back on should re-shuffle. Maybe you should turn shuffle off, then re-create your hibernation image. When you turn on shuffle on resume, it should be different every time. Just a note, I'm using winamp 5.

Valheru · 06-21-2008, 02:11 PM

you can add a button to your skin that will force winamp ro randomise it's playlist ...

the command for the buttons is ...
"ACTIVATE;Playlist Editor||SENDKEY;^+r||RELOADLIST"

pepsimachine · 06-25-2008, 11:06 PM

I have randomize turned off in my hibernation image. I turn it on everytime i load a playlist. turning it off/on does nothing for me. i turn it off and on with a skin button - would the programming of this skin button be the problem? even if i exit road runner, re enter road runner, load the list, turn on randomize and hit play, it STILL plays in the same order.

maybe the randomize feature was updated in a later winamp version. I *could* try updating my winamp version, although i'd like to stick with the older, faster, lite'r version.

pepsimachine · 06-25-2008, 11:09 PM

P.S.

the button code in my skin for randomize is this:
B12,562,50,48,60,"SHUFFLE"

Valheru - could I add that code to my current button for shuffle?

carputer1 · 06-26-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by pepsimachine

P.S.

the button code in my skin for randomize is this:
B12,562,50,48,60,"SHUFFLE"

Valheru - could I add that code to my current button for shuffle?

you can add it as apress and hold on the shuffle button

B12,562,50,48,60,"SHUFFLE",@ACTIVATE;Playlist Editor||SENDKEY;^+r||RELOADLIST@

Valheru · 06-26-2008, 04:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by pepsimachine

P.S.

the button code in my skin for randomize is this:
B12,562,50,48,60,"SHUFFLE"

Valheru - could I add that code to my current button for shuffle?

yes you can ... as carputer1 mentioned. this code is diferent that just the "RANDOM" function. This code will force Winamp to rebuild the current playlist but in a totally random order.

I think the way that carputer1 has shown is a good way of doing this... that way if you just press your "SHUFFLE" button once it will turn on/off the random feature, but if you press and hold the button it wil force winamp to regenerate a randomised playlist.

4puteruser · 06-26-2008, 05:54 AM

Is there a way to automatically have this button/action be performed every time the computer resumes from Hibernation. That way the user doesn't have to do anything.

And I am having issues with the Video random/shuffle feature. It doesn't seem like it is working properly. I did a quick search, and nothing substantial regarding the video shuffle issue..

Thanks

Valheru · 06-26-2008, 06:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 4puteruser

Is there a way to automatically have this button/action be performed every time the computer resumes from Hibernation. That way the user doesn't have to do anything.

Yes ... in the file called "ExecTBL.ini" in the skin folder put this line ...
"ONSKINSTART","ACTIVATE;Playlist Editor||SENDKEY;^+r||RELOADLIST"

Quote: Originally Posted by 4puteruser

And I am having issues with the Video random/shuffle feature. It doesn't seem like it is working properly. I did a quick search, and nothing substantial regarding the video shuffle issue..

Thanks

I don;t think the "SHUFFLE" function works on video. Looking at the skin commands this is what is in there for the "SHUFFLE" command ...
"SHUFFLE/REPEAT"- Cycles through the Shuffle/Repeat settings (Music only)

There are commands available in the Media Player Classic to Shuffle and Randomize, but there are no shortcuts (or keystrokes) available to do this which could be sent from RR ... so I'm not sure how you'll manage to do this for video.

carputer1 · 06-26-2008, 11:35 AM

for video shuffle this is the rr cmd for it

SHUFFLEVIDEO

but i have never seen it used as of yet or tryed it myself, so i'm not sure if it will work with MPC or the rr built in player. its trial and error on that 1.

4puteruser · 06-28-2008, 09:49 AM

I hate to sound like a pain, but after I added the code
"ONSKINSTART","ACTIVATE;Playlist Editor||SENDKEY;^+r||RELOADLIST"

all my button text disappeared and the buttons don't work (except for audiopause, forward, etc.) Music, video, radio, gps, buttons are not responding. if i remove the code, everything works fine. i have tested this on two seperate computers. is this a bug that has been posted, but I haven't found the solution for?
the music is re-shuffled on every RESUME, which was the ultimate goal, but not very beneficial if none of the other features work.
thanks for all your help.

carputer1 · 06-28-2008, 11:09 AM

do you have an onskinstart line already in your exctbl file, you can only have 1 line called onskinstart,

you must add the line in the above to your origanal onskinstart line just || , then your line.

Valheru · 06-28-2008, 01:39 PM

hummm I hadn't though of that carputer1 ,,, but if that doesnt work, then I'm out of ideas apart from putting the cde onto a button and manually sending a random command to winamp ...