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spidermunz · 11-23-2008, 03:43 PM

@ GF-ler
try to look my silabs plugin and usbradio.dll
i've add much features than original usbradio.dll and its works both for silabs and ads
i've add an entire gamma of new commands/indicators/slider, smart and fast af engine, eon support, stereo and quadriphonic sound system and separate volume slider for each channel and master radio volume channel, radioart for radio and preset, preset based by pi (radio station identificator numer) not by frequencies (if you are in different zone where the radio have a different frequence my af engine search right frequence for your radio automatically)
ta function, news function, radio volume automatically reduced on sygic gps speech (using drivemon support)...and much more
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/rr-p...ds-silabs.html

edit:
p.s. in next day i'll upload new version of the plugin (i have to fix some minor bugs)

GF-ler · 11-23-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by spidermunz

@ GF-ler
try to look my silabs plugin and usbradio.dll
i've add much features than original usbradio.dll and its works both for silabs and ads
i've add an entire gamma of new commands/indicators/slider, smart and fast af engine, eon support, stereo and quadriphonic sound system and separate volume slider for each channel and master radio volume channel, radioart for radio and preset, preset based by pi (radio station identificator numer) not by frequencies (if you are in different zone where the radio have a different frequence my af engine search right frequence for your radio automatically)
ta function, news function, radio volume automatically reduced on sygic gps speech (using drivemon support)...and much more
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/rr-p...ds-silabs.html

edit:
p.s. in next day i'll upload new version of the plugin (i have to fix some minor bugs)

yeah, thanks for your request. i know your plug, and the only reason why i dont use it is the damned X,xxxx in the main menu. if i change to skin where your plug is not integrated, this skin breaks. so i have to insert in all skins your plug or i have to wait that GUINO makes it possible to unload all if i leave the skin by "skin_browser.skin = on & button select".
i was one of the first guys who integrated the ICE-radio plug, its near the same what you do. i know yours is better.
i wait for the next release of your plug and also what GUINO says.
its all the time that the RDSText didnt work in my homezone. first i thought it was the ADS stick, so i get a second one, and the same result.
with an old usbradio.dll (220k) it shows me all what i need. but it didnt work with the newest roadrunner versions.

guino · 11-23-2008, 06:32 PM

Quote:

1)
a single command for RADIO "on/off"
a single command for AUDIO "on/off"
not the way through the "radio_player.skin" or "audio_player.skin" the radiomute didnt work for me.

2)
selection for 5 different backgroundscreens in one skin. if i want to draw a storyboard as skin it would be nice to have different backgrounds.

3)
popups selectable "with/without" backgroundscreen.

4)
backgroundscreen justable like PopUps. "/POSX=, /POSY=, /SHOWWIDTH=, /SHOWHEIGHT="

5)
better quality of fonts in the iList window. now are only some fonts with good quality.

6)
a working "RDSSIGNAL" for the ADS radio too. now it only works "RSIGNAL" in slider showing.

7)
a second radio preset function for station name, delayed readin when button pressed.

8)
a change inside the usbradio.dll for showing the RDSTEXT. selectable for RDSText showing in LINE format or showing in 2 block format.
(the problem of all my ADS sticks is, they only show the RDSTEXT if it selected as 2 blocks).

9)
showing all information of the internet radio. title and station name. (more communication with winamp)

10)
with the command X,xxxxx in the menu.skin i can load a driver or plug. i need a command to unload it.
perhaps its possible to do it with "SELECT" if the skin_browser is showing.
if i change the skin to another one sometimes i get no output. example the plug for the ICERADIO is one of these problems.

11)
i want to start a timer with a pressed button, its not possible because the signal of the button only works with "pulse of button NOT PRESSED"
dont know how you call it in english, but i need the a signal of pressed button also the frontside and all the time i pressed him.
its using for starting a timer, if selected time is ended and button is also pressed....shift data from "a" to "b".

1) I have to see how much work it is necessary to make this happen, however, it doesn't make sense to allow switching music to radio in the music screen, just as it doesn't make sense to switch from radio to audio in the radio screen -- we'd have to impose some limits on such things.

2) You can have as many different backgrounds in the same skin as you want. You just have to change the "background" variable before loading the screen -- just make sure you don't preload these screens.

3) Not sure I understand this. Again, you can change the background prior to loading a menu and this will modify the background for that menu -- if you don't want a background, you can simply make an empty.jpg image/layer without transparent colors in it.

4) We can expand the background= setting to allow for that, however, there are freely available command line tools which could generate the background images from a file with the desired parameters.

5) Standard iLists display fonts with the HIGHEST font quality possible. TRANSPARENT iLists can not use anti-aliased fonts because of the nature of the code which would never reach acceptable performance with anti-aliased fonts.

6) RDSSIGNAL is a code that is obsolete and currently not used by ANY radio interface. RSIGNAL provides the signal from the radio for Cinergy and Silabs/ADS, both of which are derived from the RDS data.

7) Not sure of what you want. It is possible to make preset buttons with editable names for each button using variables. If you want to edit a name of a preset in the radio playlist, you can use the radio menu or the editpreset command.

8) It is very hard to modify/tweak the core of USBRadio.dll to work better with the ADS tuner without the actual tuner and without RDS signal (here in Brazil) -- the last code I worked on was when I was in Spain, using a Silabs tuner, the DLL I made is posted on the thread at digital-car.co.uk -- I do not know what's currently in the latest USBRadio.dll.

9) I have looked into this in the past, and there was no reliable way to make this possible as there's no telling when/if internet radio information is received, and the only way to obtain it is to save the playlist in winamp and reload it.

10) When you unload a skin, RR unloads all extension plugins -- no exceptions. If you're having trouble when switching skins, chances are that the plugin itself may not be closing/restarting the device properly.

11) I'm not sure what you're trying to do. If you have a timer on a screen, you can use variables to signal a counter to start/stop and count accordingly. It is currently not possible to perform actions while on hold (Down), but it is possible to start a repeating action when pressing a button and stop such repeating action when pressing the same or another button.

guino · 11-23-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by blk02si

Perhaps I'm using it wrong or missing something, but I cannot get inipath= working at all.

I'm running the OS and RR from read only XPE on flash media and having rr.ini on a write-able drive will save settings. No matter what I set inipath= to it still read rr.ini from root.

Maybe a bug or maybe i'm using it wrong, although it seems to be a pretty straight forward option.

There's no such setting as INIPATH= ... the Config used to have it just so you could point it to a different RR.INI location -- this had nothing to do with RR.

I remember a user making a mod for inipath at some point but that was not made as an option so it was never merged.

If you're using XPE, I recommend you use FBWF instead of EWF -- it will save you a lot of trouble.. you can still use HORM with it, though my experience is XPE normally boots faster than it resumes from hibernation.

blk02si · 11-23-2008, 08:28 PM

I'm not a big fan of FBWF, XPE has been my staple for stable automotive computing for some time now.

If there is no inipath= how come it is in rrconfig?

Is this possible to add in the future?

If not I guess I will go with FBWF although it is kind of a PITA compared to EWF

GF-ler · 11-24-2008, 11:42 AM

Hi Guino, is it true that you have married last time ? if yes, best wishes for you and your wife. and believe me its better to go outside for a while as to fight.

now some comments to your request... and sorry my english is not the best...but i do my very best.

1)
a single command for RADIO "on/off"
a single command for AUDIO "on/off"
not the way through the "radio_player.skin" or "audio_player.skin" the radiomute didnt work for me.

answer:
I have to see how much work it is necessary to make this happen, however, it doesn't make sense to allow
switching music to radio in the music screen, just as it doesn't make sense to switch from radio to audio in the
radio screen -- we'd have to impose some limits on such things.

comment:
i ask for it because the INTERNET RADIO now is a part of "AUDIO", for me its home in the family of "RADIO".
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2)
selection for 5 different backgroundscreens in one skin. if i want to draw a storyboard as skin it would be nice to have different backgrounds.

answer:
You can have as many different backgrounds in the same skin as you want.
You just have to change the "background" variable before loading the screen -- just make sure you don't preload these screens.

comment:
be guilty with me, in my age it needs a liitle longer to understand what you guys mean.
a simple example would be nice.
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3)
popups selectable "with/without" backgroundscreen.

comment:
answer given in question 2

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4)
backgroundscreen justable like PopUps. "/POSX=, /POSY=, /SHOWWIDTH=, /SHOWHEIGHT="

answer:
We can expand the background= setting to allow for that, however, there are freely available command line
tools which could generate the background images from a file with the desired parameters.

comment:

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5)
better quality of fonts in the iList window. now are only some fonts with good quality.

answer:
Standard iLists display fonts with the HIGHEST font quality possible. TRANSPARENT iLists can not use anti-aliased
fonts because of the nature of the code which would never reach acceptable performance with anti-aliased fonts.

comment:
i remember it, i must look for good looking fonts and rename them for iList showing.

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6)
a working "RDSSIGNAL" for the ADS radio too. now it only works "RSIGNAL" in slider showing.

answer:
RDSSIGNAL is a code that is obsolete and currently not used by ANY radio interface. RSIGNAL provides the signal
from the radio for Cinergy and Silabs/ADS, both of which are derived from the RDS data.

comment:
i have an ADS stick, that means ADS is not working well ?

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8)
a change inside the usbradio.dll for showing the RDSTEXT. selectable for RDSText showing in LINE format or showing in 2 block format.
(the problem of all my ADS sticks is, they only show the RDSTEXT if it selected as 2 blocks).

answer:
It is very hard to modify/tweak the core of USBRadio.dll to work better with the ADS tuner without the actual tuner and
without RDS signal (here in Brazil) -- the last code I worked on was when I was in Spain, using a Silabs tuner,
the DLL I made is posted on the thread at digital-car.co.uk -- I do not know what's currently in the latest USBRadio.dll.

comment:
sorry for my naiv asking, i thought its enough to change the declaration of tis flag.

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9)
showing all information of the internet radio. title and station name.

answer:
I have looked into this in the past, and there was no reliable way to make this possible as there's no
telling when/if internet radio information is received, and the only way to obtain it is to save the playlist
in winamp and reload it.

comment:
now i use the way John goes with the playlists inside the Internet Radio skin.

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10)
with the command X,xxxxx in the menu.skin i can load a driver or plug. i need a command to unload it.
perhaps its possible to do it with "SELECT" if the skin_browser is showing.
if i change the skin to another one sometimes i get no output. example the plug for the ICERADIO is one of these problems.

answer:
When you unload a skin, RR unloads all extension plugins -- no exceptions. If you're having trouble when switching skins,
chances are that the plugin itself may not be closing/restarting the device properly.

comment:
yeah the plugs for ICE radio is one of the problem. i dont use it, i want give Spidermuzz plug a try.

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7)
a second radio preset function for station name, delayed readin when button pressed.

answer:
Not sure of what you want. It is possible to make preset buttons with editable names for each button
using variables. If you want to edit a name of a preset in the radio playlist, you can use the radio menu
or the editpreset command.

11)
i want to start a timer with a pressed button, its not possible because the signal of the button only works with "pulse of button NOT PRESSED"
dont know how you call it in english, but i need the a signal of pressed button also the frontside and all the time i pressed him.
its using for starting a timer, if selected time is ended and button is also pressed....shift data from "a" to "b".

answer:
I'm not sure what you're trying to do. If you have a timer on a screen, you can use variables to signal
a counter to start/stop and count accordingly. It is currently not possible to perform actions while on hold (Down),
but it is possible to start a repeating action when pressing a button and stop such repeating action when pressing
the same or another button

comment:
yeah i know that its all editable. in time of a FM radio it make sense. now in time of RDS or HD where all informations are possible
i thought i could make it automaticly.
with pressing a PRESET button open the frequence which are safed under this button and READIN the name of the RADIO-STATION.
BUT....
in time where i press a PRESET button is no STATION NAME available. it needs a short time (open the channel..getting
the data from the sender..push into the roadrunner flag) ..before it showing on the screen.
that means, in first time where i press the PRESET button are no information in the RDSNAME variable.
therefore i need a timer which work in follow way... PRESET button pressed..start timer for 3seconds..timer ended and PRESET button
is pressed...take the data from RDSNAME and write it in variable for STATION under this PRESET button.
if i leave the PRESET button in time where the timer runs..it stops the timer.
a short press (PRESET button) open the selected frequnce without loading the RDSNAME and all data are the old existed one.

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hailrazer · 11-24-2008, 10:08 PM

Well I for one am not thrilled.

I had installed the 12-08-2007 version and everything was working pretty OK.

I "upgrade" to this version an nothing but troubles.

When I Hibernate and resume, it can't find the XM Radio. I have to shut off the computer and restart it to get back XM Radio.

And I still , no matter what I do , can't get iGuidance to find the GPS unless I start iGuidance first and then start Roadrunner.

And no I am not a Newb when it comes to this stuff. I have every setting just like it was and have tried every trick in the book.

I'm done with this build and I'm going back to last years. If this is what I have to look forward to every 4 months..... then thanks but no thanks.

mitchjs · 11-24-2008, 10:26 PM

hailrazer, XM/Sirius/HD got a COMPLETE REWRITE, its NOTHING like the 12/08 version
i guess u havent been paying attention
and im sure the PROBLEM is SIMPLE TO FIX!!
prob related to how you have it wired for power

as for Iguidance, i cant help you, but im sure others can, very popular

and two items is hardly trouble...

hailrazer · 11-24-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mitchjs

hailrazer, XM/Sirius/HD got a COMPLETE REWRITE, its NOTHING like the 12/08 version
i guess u havent been paying attention
and im sure the PROBLEM is SIMPLE TO FIX!!
prob related to how you have it wired for power

as for Iguidance, i cant help you, but im sure others can, very popular

and two items is hardly trouble...

Sure it may be a "simple fix"

But how is this for simple.
With the 12/08 version it was working nearly perfect.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED in my setup except I installed the new version.

Now it won't come out of hibernation properly and Navagation won't work properly.

I don't care if everything was rewritten if it now doesn't work.

I'm not saying it might not be great for some people, but for me I'll stick with the old version that worked.

mitchjs · 11-24-2008, 11:01 PM

ok, with that attitude, im sure many people here will be willing to help ya

hailrazer · 11-24-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mitchjs

ok, with that attitude, im sure many people here will be willing to help ya

I'm not asking for help.

I'm expressing my concern and letting others know that if they are running fine right now, don't update unless they are ready to trouble shoot.

EL CAMINO · 11-25-2008, 12:03 AM

wow, this is the attitude that will make guino change his mind about the 4 months. i would change it for a month after this.

hailrazer · 11-25-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by EL CAMINO

wow, this is the attitude that will make guino change his mind about the 4 months. i would change it for a month after this.

So you're saying just because something is freeware, then no-one has a right to complain that it is broken or breaks their setup.

I really hope Guino is not so oversensitive as to get offended that I like his older version over his newer version.

I mean come-on I love his older version , I just can't get his newer version working correctly and I don't have another 20 hours to put into it.

brandensin · 11-25-2008, 02:00 AM

I think i am gonna make a request of my own if it's doable without too much of effort.. I know RR is for carpc but i personally like to use this for htpc as well.. i am wondering if a hot key can be used to trigger audio, video, photo, etc... So, if i press f1, audio runs, f2, video runs and so on..

kpjuk · 11-25-2008, 02:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by brandensin

I think i am gonna make a request of my own if it's doable without too much of effort.. I know RR is for carpc but i personally like to use this for htpc as well.. i am wondering if a hot key can be used to trigger audio, video, photo, etc... So, if i press f1, audio runs, f2, video runs and so on..

You can already do this using entries in keytbl.ini.

here is the help file entry

/, This file defines the functions assigned for keyboard keys
/, The format is simply: <KEYCODE>,"<COMMAND>"
/,
/, Use the KeyCode tool to find the keycodes you wish to use.
/,
/, You can use Any SKIN COMMANDS here (Specially):
/,
/, CTRLLEFT = will highlight/select the previous control
/, CTRLRIGHT = will highlight/select the next control
/, CTRLUP = will move up on list or slider (when selected)
/, CTRLDOWN = will move down on list or slider (when selected)
/, CTRLEXEC = will execute the current/highlighted control
/,
/, The Lines Bellow are the standard "browsing" commands

37,"CTRLLEFT"
38,"CTRLUP"
39,"CTRLRIGHT"
40,"CTRLDOWN"
13,"CTRLEXEC"

/, The lines bellow are keys assigned to skin commands
/, You can create as many as you wish.

27,"CANCEL"
33,"PGUP"
34,"PGDOWN"
2037,"RRPREV"
2039,"RRNEXT"
2070,"SEARCHLIST"
145,"PLAY"

If you need to know the keycode, there is a file included with RR called Keycode.exe. Fire this up and press a key. This will then tell you the code to use for that key. Keytbl.ini can be found in the main rr directory.

KPJUK

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