RR 06-06-05 .. Winamp Library Support ... - Page 5

ccsnet · 06-13-2005, 06:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

@RoyN that's exactly what terran has done on his skin. He basically just uses the audio_browser to play the directories "directly"... and No, as far as I know mediacar worked exactly like RR does with the BM skin. All you need is to make or get a skin that does what you want.

@Terran, I can (at most create) commands to jump forward/backward a desired amout of seconds, but you'll have to add more buttons to your skin to do that. I believe adding a slider is a much better option not only for control but for display too. I will not change the way the normal forward/backward buttons work because it is intended for holding the button and have exact control of the position of the song, so don't even try suggesting a variable rate of seeking. A slider can be as large or as small as you want -- you don't even have to draw it on the skin and, possibly, you can even place it over non-scrolling labels to save space.

@RoyN - UKMP3car has it on his server... pm him as I dont know the link... but basically its the Feb skin from MC.... Its still as close to the orgional as thats nice and basic and ideal so does not have some of the more advanced features RR offers. That been said I have tweeked it a bit - but if you look at my old skin thred you should see what I mean.

@Guino.. not thinking of changing more adding... ie

Press once move to the pre or next track ( as before )
Hold down ff or rr ( as before )
press quickly twice jump 5 mins ( new )
press quickly three times jump 10 mins ( new )
press quickly four times jump 15 mins.... ( new )

Do you see what I mean ?

Terran

guino · 06-13-2005, 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ccsnet

@Guino.. not thinking of changing more adding... ie
Press once move to the pre or next track ( as before )
Hold down ff or rr ( as before )
press quickly twice jump 5 mins ( new )
press quickly three times jump 10 mins ( new )
press quickly four times jump 15 mins.... ( new )
Do you see what I mean ?
Terran

I can foresee issues with doing that.. somebody would like press FFWD twice accidently and it will jump 5 mins which will basically end the song and start the next one (songs < 5 mins long). But more over there's an issue that I cant predict a quick click before it happens so I'd have to add some timer handler to wait a certain time before jumping to next song -- if I make this wait too long, you'll press the button and think RR is just being slow to respond (I can already hear complaints about it), If I make the wait short, you'll end up not clicking fast enough and basically not getting the result you want. This is why I don't like changing how things work, ****es off the people that like the way things are and doesn't satisfy (ever) the people that wanted it changed. If I made you skin codes to make larger jumps, those who don't use it won't even notice that it exist, and those that wanted such feature would always get the result they wanted. I'll add you the skin codes if you want, but I'm just not about changing the normal operation then have to hear complaints of other users and explain it to them all over again.

ccsnet · 06-13-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

I can foresee issues with doing that.. somebody would like press FFWD twice accidently and it will jump 5 mins which will basically end the song and start the next one (songs < 5 mins long). But more over there's an issue that I cant predict a quick click before it happens so I'd have to add some timer handler to wait a certain time before jumping to next song -- if I make this wait too long, you'll press the button and think RR is just being slow to respond (I can already hear complaints about it), If I make the wait short, you'll end up not clicking fast enough and basically not getting the result you want. This is why I don't like changing how things work, ****es off the people that like the way things are and doesn't satisfy (ever) the people that wanted it changed. If I made you skin codes to make larger jumps, those who don't use it won't even notice that it exist, and those that wanted such feature would always get the result they wanted. I'll add you the skin codes if you want, but I'm just not about changing the normal operation then have to hear complaints of other users and explain it to them all over again.

Np its your prog... if you do have time to add the extra commands it would be much apprciated - how ever it is entirly up to your self as the programmer.

I hope you dont mind me asking - ( you seemed a little cheesed off ) - as I and lots of others really appciate what you do. In fact I'm involved with some thing that will benifit the community my self so I understand where your coming from in part.

I only offer up the comments for debate and discussion... some times for good.... some times for bad.... I really do hope I have not offended your self for doing this....

Terran

Arathranar · 06-13-2005, 03:14 PM

Sounds like a very useful addition for video playback. although the 4 speed fast forward and rewind whilst still playing like Windows Media Center would be preferable in my mind.

RoyN · 06-13-2005, 04:26 PM

@CCSNet, UKMP3Car's site only has BM menus, and logos, etc in PSD format (on skins.mpug.co.uk)... is there any way you could email me the files involved in this only (browser and player I'd guess?) roy [@] vem.ca Thanks!

@Guino, talking about ff/rr, using "PREV" and "NEXT" I have a small problem/complaint... these commands work well for Next track, FF, and also for FR(fast rewind) but clicking on the PREV once, instead of going to the start of the track like a regular sound system, it takes me to the previous track. is this how it is SUPPOSED to work? and if so how would I make the buttons act like a regular player would? (press once start of track/previous track, press hold rewind track...etc)

guino · 06-13-2005, 04:46 PM

@Terran, you have not offended me at all, everybody has the right to ask... When I don't want to do something is typically because I'm trying to stay away from users complaints and from using time that otherwise would be used for improving or adding something else that I judge to be of more importance. If somebody else works on stuff that I did not plan or did not want to do, I can still add it to the main sources if desired.

@RoyN, that is the intended way for it to work. There are two solutions for your "issue": You can press and hold the PREV button to start the song over (it will take a few seconds to go back to the begginning), or I can add a command to perform like you say (PREV=RESTART song, then again=Previous song, hold=seek backwards). Your request is a trade off:

-People like me, want to press PREV once and go to previous song -- IF I want to restart the song I use the slider or press prev then next.

-People like you, want to press PREV once to restart the song -- IF you want to go to the previous song you'll have to press PREV twice.

You have 2 functions and either way, one function you will perform with single click and one you'll have to make two clicks. I only did the way it is now because it is how MC had it to begin with (and it is more intuitive in my mind because it works exactly as opposed to the NEXT button). It takes me about 3 lines of code to add a skin command for you to replace the "PREV" code with a "PREV2" code that will work the way you like.

RoyN · 06-13-2005, 05:02 PM

Hey Guino,

If you have time to add that, I'd appreciate it!

I think it makes it easier for people used to regular stereos... Its like "firsttime used clicks back to restar song

then I go in and press next

"... so if that would be easy please add!

guino · 06-13-2005, 05:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RoyN

Hey Guino,
If you have time to add that, I'd appreciate it!

I think it makes it easier for people used to regular stereos... Its like "firsttime used clicks back to restar song

then I go in and press next

"... so if that would be easy please add!

Download this: http://guino.home.insightbb.com/rr.exe

Change the code on your skin from "PREV" (or whatever) to "PREV2".

@Terran, download the above as well, your command is "SEEK" (different than "SEEKTO".. takes one paramter which is the number of seconds to seek from current position:

"SEEK;1200" or "SEEK;-300" (forward 20 minutes and backward 5 minutes respectively). This may not have any effect when trying to seek to a place over the song's length or before the song's start.

ccsnet · 06-13-2005, 05:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

Download this: http://guino.home.insightbb.com/rr.exe

Change the code on your skin from "PREV" (or whatever) to "PREV2".

@Terran, download the above as well, your command is "SEEK" (different than "SEEKTO".. takes one paramter which is the number of seconds to seek from current position:

"SEEK;1200" or "SEEK;-300" (forward 20 minutes and backward 5 minutes respectively). This may not have any effect when trying to seek to a place over the song's length or before the song's start.

Guino - BIG thanks.... your one lean mean coding machine...

Terran

chrishick · 06-13-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

You have 2 functions and either way, one function you will perform with single click and one you'll have to make two clicks. I only did the way it is now because it is how MC had it to begin with (and it is more intuitive in my mind because it works exactly as opposed to the NEXT button). It takes me about 3 lines of code to add a skin command for you to replace the "PREV" code with a "PREV2" code that will work the way you like.

Couldn't both be done using the ExecTBL.ini? If you want it to restart the song you just put "prev||next" in the table for the prev command. Now the prev button works like you want.

RoyN · 06-13-2005, 06:59 PM

chrishick, how would I go to previous song then?

Guino, I'm going to test it asap

guino · 06-13-2005, 07:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chrishick

Couldn't both be done using the ExecTBL.ini? If you want it to restart the song you just put "prev||next" in the table for the prev command. Now the prev button works like you want.

You could in theory create a command for restart but not exactly doing the desired behaviour (press=restart, press again=previous song). Also, some sequence of commands don't work because winamp can't process them fast enough. In any case, while "prev||next" doesn't work to restart the song, "seekto;00:00" should work perfect to create a "restart" command. Good thinking though.

mauri · 06-14-2005, 07:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

1-even different MP3 files have different loudness, you can't possibly expect it to be the same for everything. What I do is lower the winamp volume and increase the Line In/Wave volume to where my Radio/Video/Mp3 have about the same loudness but it can never be perfect.

2-You just need to set the speed in RRConfig. For it to work you must use a skin that has the indicator propperly defined, and most importantly use AGPS on MM.

Tested in all mode (skin draw correctly the new optional indicator ok in xxx_ON)but don't work....
write the string:

I01,630,000,30,64,"OVERSPEED:B"

In RR config setting for overspeed 55...

I use the "Dena" skin.

Thanks

Mauri

infrared · 06-14-2005, 10:55 PM

Guino:

This is my first post in your forums (RoadRunner), so let me congratulate you on a great product..

I've found a (simple) bug in your Winamp Library addition. Rather than finding the Winamp Library directory by the Winamp Path in the RR Config, it seems you are resorting to C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml.

If not, then I have bigger issues. I've had Winamp 2.xx installed in C:\Program files\Winamp. Uninstalled that, moved to Winamp 5.xx to D:\Program files\Winamp. Installed 6/5/05 of RoadRunner (C:\Program Files\RoadRunner) and the Winamp Library functionality (Album/Artist/Genre) only comes up if I have the C:\Program files\Winamp directory (I didn't uninstall Winamp from D:\Program files\Winamp to test this, only copied the Winamp directory recursively to C:\Program files).

Hope this helps,
Jason

guino · 06-15-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by infrared

I've found a (simple) bug in your Winamp Library addition. Rather than finding the Winamp Library directory by the Winamp Path in the RR Config, it seems you are resorting to C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml.

Yeah, I actually just came across this today and fixed it.. I hard coded the winamp path for testing and forgot to remove it.. thanks for pointing it out though...

You can download this to fix the issue:
http://guino.home.insightbb.com/rr.exe

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