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Old 06-23-2005, 09:20 PM   #16
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Hmm, I have only used one mobo, several xp installations...

at first I was using NMC... I would get music about 1 second before my desktop/frontend would reappear... basically, coming out of hibernation I would get "Windows is resuming.......................................... ........."MUSIC STARTS"..."Back to Frontend...

Then I think I started having problems after a while of using RR (I *think* the really old versions didnt have this, but maybe it happened when i switched from NMC to RR)...

I tried on my laptop and RR hibernates fine without touching ANYTHING. Could you maybe add a command that we could put in ExecTBL to try and move the cursor manually 5 pixels or something? (Of course we must give a slight delay... maybe 2 functions WAIT;500||MOUSEMVX;-5 to wait 1/2 second, and then move mouse -f pixels on X axis? Dunno, just a suggestion
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Hmm, I have only used one mobo, several xp installations...

at first I was using NMC... I would get music about 1 second before my desktop/frontend would reappear... basically, coming out of hibernation I would get "Windows is resuming.......................................... ........."MUSIC STARTS"..."Back to Frontend...

Then I think I started having problems after a while of using RR (I *think* the really old versions didnt have this, but maybe it happened when i switched from NMC to RR)...

I tried on my laptop and RR hibernates fine without touching ANYTHING. Could you maybe add a command that we could put in ExecTBL to try and move the cursor manually 5 pixels or something? (Of course we must give a slight delay... maybe 2 functions WAIT;500||MOUSEMVX;-5 to wait 1/2 second, and then move mouse -f pixels on X axis? Dunno, just a suggestion

I like that idea. Have no idea how practical it is, but I like it anyway.

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it would only really be useful if it solves that problem!
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The effect you got with NMC is the result of IGNORING hibernation.. you can do that by using the hibernateaware=false setting in RR.INI... I'm pretty sure the problem with the music is something winamp related, while I can't prove it (nor debug it, since I've never seen it), have you tried to open winamp (ALONE) hibernate and resume (while playing music) to see what happens ?

For moving the mouse you can use "CTRLLEFT" or "CTRLRIGHT" (will move the mouse away from the screen). I'd try those two settings in ExecTBL.INI:

"ONRESUME","CTRLLEFT"

or (close/re-open winamp for a "wait" effect):

"ONSUSPEND","CLOSEWINAMP"
"ONRESUME","STARTWINAMP||CTRLLEFT"

If the above doesn't work then it's unlikely any SOFTWARE operation will be able to simulate the mouse move for your hardware to work -- In my opinion something with the mouse driver could be "locking up" when resuming and preventing any other application from receiving the "RESUME" message from windows ... but then again I can't be sure since the hibernateaware=false settings seems to have no effect.
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Yippeee, the INI hack worked for me with the latest version of RR.



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Hmm, I'll try tomorrow. what is the DISadvantage, if any, to adding hibernateaware=1?
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Hmm, I'll try tomorrow. what is the DISadvantage, if any, to adding hibernateaware=1?

I think I added hibernateaware=true, or false, or whatever. It is in the thread somewhere.

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Yeah, yeah, that is well documented in this thread.. it disables RR's "awareness" of hibernation, I'm still, however, trying to understand what if any is the disadvantage to doing that...
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On hibernation, RR will close/open any ports it has opened, and stop music playback then resume it.. if hibernateaware=false is present, it will simply ignore the hibernation process and let the applications/windows handle it on their own. I am amazed that after so much talk of hibernation issues you have not yet tried it.
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Amazed you might be... I mentioned, however more than once that I would test as soon as I could get to my carpc, unfortunately I have been having a ton of problems on it... and my other computers dont have the issue, so nothing to test on them... that particulat unit that presents the bug will hopefully be exposed to the test tomorrow...
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I too confirm that hibernateaware=false fixes it for me
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Guino, now that I think more about this, what kind of ports are you openning and closing? Would they pose a problem if not opened/closed appropriately?

I could suggest 3 levels of hibernationawareness... 0 (ignore) 1 (close ports, etc, ignore music) 2 (as uhave now, stop music, start music)...

That way we can still benefit from the recovery from hibernation for ports and such, but wont have problems with music that doesnt start
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I'd go as far as to add that hibernate "level" support but there's no ground basis to assume that it's winamp and not the com port stuff that's messing up the resume.. the only reason why I close the com ports is because some serial devices may prevent the computer from hibernating if not closed. If hibernateaware=false works for you, then there's no benefit whatsoever in closing the serial ports on your system.. The ports RR closes are the GPS, Serial Sensor and XM -- Only if they're setup in RRConfig (doesn't control anything used in external apps).
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OK Guino, I'll post back if I have any issues...

For now, FD treats its own hibernation (in my case OEM GPS), I dont have any sensors to test, so hibernateaware=false is great for me!

I'll keep you posted, once again sorry for the delay in testing this stuff out...

Cheers!

PS: could you add a hibernateaware option in RRConfig whenever you have some time..
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Well, after just experiencing this myself. I've got some more details to add.

* Running winamp by itself and hibernating/resuming works fine. Which would lead me to believe it the front end (RR).
* ONRESUME CTRLLEFT doesn't help.
* My situation: I need to just move the mouse and everything is good.
* Using hiberateaware=false works for the audio, but my clock doesn't resume until I move my mouse.
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