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Old 07-08-2005, 01:21 PM   #1
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Song sort order and WinAmp issues

OK so I upgrade to the latest version of RR. I am using WinAmp 5.03 pro. On the old install when RR was opened it would pop up in front of WinAmp. Now when it opens winamp stays if front of the RR window. I have the Hide Winamp box selected in RR config. What gives?

Also as always we have been using Microsoft Media Player 10 to rip CD's to MP3. By default they are ripped to the MY Music folder under My Documents. Well when using the old version of RR the music was sorted and diaplayed in the order they appeared on the Album. Now they seem to be sorted by the order they were ripped or something like that, have not figured out exactly what it is doing yet, but something has changed.

Also in your readme txt you do not mention what the Numbered Play list box does. Is it sorting the contents of the My Music folder by number? I need some clarification on this or is the sorting and display of stored music handled exclusively by WinAmp and I sould dig through their documentation.

On this note I would certainly appreciate if Windows Media Player were the Integrated audio handler in RR as it is far less cumbersome and complex to set up and get working right. WinAmp has always given me grief in the past, and it seems like it's doing it again. Besides Media Player is free!
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Old 07-08-2005, 01:57 PM   #2
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1-You MUST use a classic skin or winamp will not hide (This is in the FAQ).
2-The order of display in RR is SORTED by FILENAME -- just set your cdrip to rip with names in the order you wish to see the files (If you can't do that, I recommand a CDRip that can do it, or use a Song organizer software)
3-The "Numbered" playlist option just hides/shows the song numbers on the playlist (you could simply have tried it to see what it does)
4-I do have plans to add other playback players (at some point)
5-Winamp is 100% FREE -- only some advanced features are added on Winamp Pro
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Just hijacking on a realted issue. Is it possible at all to sort by title rather than filename?
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possible: yes... will I implement it: NO... Reason: I would have to load all ID3 Tags before I could do any sorting that is not based on Filename -- This may be ok for me an you (if you only load a few songs at a time to the playlist), but I know that if do it, I will then have to hear complaints of people saying RR takes too long to add songs to the playlist. And before you say anything, making it an option would still not prevent people from turning it on then complaining about the speed.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:39 PM   #5
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Isnt that what the lazy ID3 read option is for?
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:24 PM   #6
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no.. Lazy ID3 tag just puts off the loading of ID3 tags to be done during "idle" time.. If you simply enable ID3 Tag, RR will load all tags of files that are "DISPLAYED" .. that is different than reading the tags of all files "LOADED" onto the playlist. The difference when using the "Lazy" option is seen mostly when scrolling through your playlist.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:29 PM   #7
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Funny thing is that the RR window at least in the last version, used to cover the WinAmp window. Even when the hide winamp box was not checked. Now it seems that the winamp window refuses to loose focus even when RR starts up after it.

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Are you using a classic skin and have you checked the "always on top" is NOT on ?
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