NEXT and RRVER commands

JPuma · 09-29-2005, 02:51 PM

Guino,

It seems that when the focus goes off the song selections and on (lets say) volume in the music player the NEXT and RRVER commands when issued through keyboard keys do not change the songs. I have my BMW controls changing the song selection so I just map a steering wheel button to the B key and when in your program map the code for the B key to the RRVER function. So how can I get back on focus to the song selection window so these fucntionss can work.

guino · 09-29-2005, 04:04 PM

What ?? There's no RRVER command as far as I know. There's a label code RRVER to display the date version of RR.

CDRSkull has made a control application to send commands from the BMW thingy directly to RR, this is what you should use if possible. If you're using a custom/separate application, you should set focus to RR before simulating any keypresses (otherwise it just won't receive it).

JPuma · 09-29-2005, 04:48 PM

Lol, sorry about that I have that splash screen stuff still stuck in my head. Next and back are the label. I am using ibuscom, whic is much better but the same thing. I am not talking about losing focus of the RR program.

Damn, now think about it I messed up. Those controls are working. Its the up and down controls that don't work in the play list when the focus moves to something else in the program.

When I am in the audoi player and I do something like adjust volume then when I use my dial on my nav monitor to invoke the up and down commands it dosent work. I have to use the left and right arrows on the keyboard to move till I can get the focus back on the play list window. I know the up and down arrow keys are uses for other function on the player skin like volume. I think I also tried selecting a song in the playlist and then used my know and it still didn't scroll the songs. Sorry for being off base before.

guino · 09-29-2005, 05:07 PM

Are you doing this through keyboard or what ? UP/DOWN ONLY WORK with the list, so if you assign a key to UP or DOWN it should always act on the playlist. you should only map keys to CTRLxxxx commands if you're using a KEYBOARD.

JPuma · 09-29-2005, 05:45 PM

not with the keyboard with the knob on bmw contorls. when I turn left on the knob it sends down command when I turn knob right, up. ok, now when I go into to audio player for the first time it does work but if I touch something like the volume slider the knob doesnt work. Even on the keyboard which I dont use but just as a test UP/DOWN dosent work in the playlist. Also, I am using the BMV skin so I would have to use the left right arrows on the keyboard to move it back to ??? cause I am not sure. But I see the blue glow arround the buttons moving from button to button, when I dont see the glow I test to see if its back on the playlist. So the UP/DOWN dosent only work for the playlist if you can move focus off the playlist like on the volume slider. If you click the volume slider the UP/DOWN will control that. How can I change it so that UP/DOWN only controls playlist. or find a way to click something to put focus of the UP/DOWN back on the playlist.

And yes, I only use CTRL+Key to control the program.

guino · 09-29-2005, 06:01 PM

dude, I need to know:

1-What's in your keytbl.ini
2-What's in your exectbl.ini
3-Which commands and/or Keypresses (or ascii codes) you're sending to RR to perform what you need (All of them to be exact)

Nitrov8 · 09-29-2005, 07:43 PM

I use a remote to send keystrokes to RR in a simular fashion and never have a prob with next/prev in the playlist, it even works when you are in a different screen.

have you tried mapping the keycodes in the keytbl.ini like this

38,"PREV2"
//UP ARROW
40,"NEXT"
//DOWN ARROW

Make sure the comments are on their own line

JPuma · 09-29-2005, 10:04 PM

Okay, lets start over. I made a mistake. I am not talking about PREV and NEXT, forget whats in the topic. I am talking about the scroll tags, "UP" and "DOWN". Now, go into the audioplayer. use the Up and Down keys on your keyboard. Unless you modified these keys they simply move up and the down the playlist. It doent play the next or prevous song it just scrolls through. Now, slect the volume slider with your mouse or touchscreen and the use the up and down arrorw keys. It adjusts the volume up and down. What I am trying to do it keep this function of the up and down scrolling on the playlist only or at least find a way to snap back to it. I dont know who to explain this any more then that. This is the defualt function on RR and all I am doing is controlling the UP and Down arrow keys with a knob in my car.

I have buttons in my vehicle that I use for Next and PREV but thats not what I am looking for. The UP and Down arrow keys which are the same lables associated to the up and down buttons on the playlist are what I am talking about. My computer is on the bench now, But my keytbl.ini hasnt been altered for the UP and Down tags. there still set with the codes for arrow up and down.

guino · 09-30-2005, 12:55 AM

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...29&postcount=6

guino · 09-30-2005, 11:38 AM

I'm sorry man, as I said in the Install FAQ, RR requires efforts to be made in order to have the software working exactly as you want it.

I know exactly what you're talking about and exactly how to "fix" it (and it is not a bug). The settings that come with RR are meant to provide basic support for KEYBOARD users. The problem is that if I simply tell you what to do, you will not LEARN anything from it... If you simply read skin commands.txt (I mean read it to where you have an idea of how the skins work and the commands you can use) then exectbl.ini and keytbl.ini, your answer will be (AT LEAST) easier to understand.

I asked you to post the contents of your ini files:

1-so I'm sure that you've at least looked at them
2-so I know for sure what to tell you.

If you have never read/changed those files, I know I exactly what it is in them and what exactly is your "problem", but that doesn't change the fact that YOU should take a look at them. After all this you still haven't told me clearly what key presses you're simulating onto RR. From what you said, I assume you're using the up and down ARROWKEYS (codes 38 and 40) because those are keys assigned on keytbl.ini by default -- but without you posting your files I can't be sure either.

I'm saying this because if you had read skin commands.txt, exectbl.ini and keytbl.ini, when you read post #4 of this thread you would realize that the uppercase words are commands and you'd most likely understand what to do which basically involves deleting 8 letters in one of the ini files, and is something that I have explained a few users in the past.

Now, I could have told your answer some 10 times on the time that took me to post this.. but here's how I look at it:

1-You asked for help
2-I offered you help, but I need some information from you in order to help you
3-Instead of providing me the information I need, you went around and told me to do something else
4-I am still waiting for the same information I asked in order to help you, simply because what you told me to do is just not going to help you in the long run.

JPuma · 09-30-2005, 11:53 AM

I apoligize if I am the problem here Guino. I am confirming to you that what I am using is the UP and DOWN arrow keys on the keyboard. codes 38 and 40. You dont need to see the INI for that and being that I cant post it now, I thought you would understand. I DO understand the ini's and skin commands, no mystery there. UP/DOWN dosent only work with just the list when pressed on the keyboard, thats why I asked for you to try yourself.

I will read the skins files again inside and out and the ini's to see if I can find the answer your not willing to simply explain to me but from the results I was getting I thought this behavior was normal to the way up down arrow keys work depending on what function its on, ie volume or playlist or even song progress bar. I guess I could find a way to trigger the actual up/down buttons on the screen. If this is what you holding back from telling me then fine, I'll figure it out for myself.

Thanks anyway.

guino · 09-30-2005, 12:01 PM

Here's what you find in the default keytbl.ini:

Code:

/, This file defines the functions assigned for keyboard keys
/, The format is simply: <KEYCODE>,"<COMMAND>"
/,
/, Use the KeyCode tool to find the keycodes you wish to use.
/,
/, You can use Any SKIN COMMANDS here (Specially):
/,
/, CTRLLEFT = will highlight/select the previous control
/, CTRLRIGHT = will highlight/select the next control
/, CTRLUP = will move up on list or slider (when selected)
/, CTRLDOWN = will move down on list or slider (when selected)
/, CTRLEXEC = will execute the current/highlighted control
/,
/, The Lines Below are the standard "browsing" commands

37,"CTRLLEFT"
38,"CTRLUP"
39,"CTRLRIGHT"
40,"CTRLDOWN"
13,"CTRLEXEC"

As the text says, you assign a keypress to a command. By default 38 and 40 are assigned to "CTRLUP" / "CTRLDOWN" which work on the object ON FOCUS (buttons, sliders etc). All you need to do is set:

38,"UP"
40,"DOWN"

Then the up/down keys will only act upon the playlist. THIS WILL SCREW UP THE KEYBOARD SUPPORT. Now, if you can set your remote to simulate the letters U (for up ) and D (for down) you could ADD those lines below and not change/screw with the keyboard support:

85,"UP"
68,"DOWN"

JPuma · 09-30-2005, 12:20 PM

Guino,

Since I am redoing my system I see that in a fresh install the keytbl.ini is set for

38,"CTRLUP"
40,"CTRLDOWN"

"CTRLUP" - Increases the Selected/Highlight control on the screen (Slider/List only)
"CTRLDOWN" - Decreases the Selected/Highlight control on the screen (Slider/List only)

and since I am redoing my system I dont have my old keytbl.ini, but I was sure I had it set as

38,"UP"
40,"DOWN"

"UP" - Scrolls one Item UP on a Playlist OR Directory list (the last selected if both in same screen)
"DOWN" - Scrolls one Item DOWN on a Playlist OR Directory list (the last selected if both in same screen)

I will try again but I clearly understood the two.

JPuma · 09-30-2005, 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

As the text says, you assign a keypress to a command. By default 38 and 40 are assigned to "CTRLUP" / "CTRLDOWN" which work on the object ON FOCUS (buttons, sliders etc). All you need to do is set:

38,"UP"
40,"DOWN"

Then the up/down keys will only act upon the playlist. THIS WILL SCREW UP THE KEYBOARD SUPPORT. Now, if you can set your remote to simulate the letters U (for up ) and D (for down) you could ADD those lines bellow and not change/screw with the keyboard support:

85,"UP"
68,"DOWN"

Okay, something was really messed up with my setup then cause its working the way I want it now. Also, I will take your adivse to move that UP/DOWN commands to other keystokes. Sorry for being such a hassle. I'll send another donation.