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View Poll Results: What Video/DVD players are you using/plan to use?
Built-In Video 5 15.15%
Media Player Classic (MPC) 13 39.39%
VideoLan (VLC) 14 42.42%
Windows Media Player (WMP) 3 9.09%
DirectShow (MSVid) 3 9.09%
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:58 AM   #1
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Post List and comparison of available Video/DVD player plugins

These are the available Video/DVD player plugins for Ride Runner,
Requires (and included on) Version 7/1/2009 and newer:
  • Built-In - The same old Built-In video player.
  • MPC - Media Player Classic, fully re-built integration. Support 6.4.9.0 or newer.
  • WMP - Windows Media Player. Supports WMP 7 and above.
  • VLC - VideoLan. Supports VLC 1.0.0 and above.
  • MSVid - Microsoft Video Control (DirectShow). Included with DirectX.
While they all can perform the same basic features for Video/DVD playback, they all differ in several other aspects, but specially on:
  • What File Types they can play
  • How much Memory is used
  • What kind of performance is offered on playback (Startup/Load of Videos/DVD, etc)
  • Whether DVD support is offered
  • What zoom (aspect ratio) feature is offered
  • What is required to use it (External applications, hardware specifications and/or settings)
Note: CPU load is not focused on this thread because it mostly depends on the Codecs installed on the machine or used/selected by the video player itself.

Below, there's a table that shows some information on each player. You should base your choice of player on your specific needs, considering the hardware you have, what you are used to, and the features you'd like to have. You should follow the install information on the documentation for each video player.

Ideally, you should try each player until you find one that suits you best -- regardless of the tests results shown below (performed on a Intel Centrino 1.2Ghz Processor w/ 1Gb Ram).

Selection of Bideo/DVD players:

The choice of Video/DVD player is based on RR.INI settings:

videoplayer=
dvdplayer=

Leaving them blank (like above) or omitting the lines, will tell RR to use the Built-in Player for Video and MPC for DVD (as usual). If you want the SAME player for video and for DVD, you may only specify the videoplayer line -- as long as the plugin supports DVD playback, RR will use it as well, otherwise it will use MPC as fallback. If you want a different plugin for DVD than for video, you should add the dvdplayer line to set the desired DVD plugin. To use the built-in player for Video and specify a DVD plugin (other than MPC), you should omit the videoplayer setting (or leave it blank) and set the dvdplayer with your desired DVD plugin.

For Developers

If you wish to make a new Video/DVD player plugin for RR, you can do so (in any language that supports COM) by following the model of the WMP plugin sources available to download on this same post. You just need to replicate the functions described in the .cls file. There are very few functions required to make it work. You should be aware of the "NoZoom" setting from RR.INI and, if set to True, you should maintain aspect ratio of the Video/DVD for playback -- You can obtain this easily with the following code (typically used on the Class_Initialize sub):

Code:
Dim RRSDK as Object Dim NoZoom as Boolean Set RRSDK = CreateObject("RideRunner.SDK") NoZoom = LCase(RRSDK.getinfo("=$nozoom$")) = "true" Set RRSDK = Nothing

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Old 07-15-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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I voted for Media Player Classic, though might change to VLC if it still has the same problems as before.
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IMO, the upside to VLC is that it can play most any video format with it's built-in codec's.
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Quote: Originally Posted by chevyn8 View Post
IMO, the upside to VLC is that it can play most any video format with it's built-in codec's.

Sure thing, however, it is a downside when you want to add a specific filter or use options from your default filters instead -- just depends on what each person wants, thus why there are other options for video/dvd
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does the video shuffle work in the newer version? Using the built in player in the previous version didn't really work and if it did, it shuffled my playlist around instead of jumping around on the playlist. It made finding specific songs a little bit troublesome.
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Quote: Originally Posted by wariow View Post
does the video shuffle work in the newer version? Using the built in player in the previous version didn't really work and if it did, it shuffled my playlist around instead of jumping around on the playlist. It made finding specific songs a little bit troublesome.

Yes, current video shuffle just shuffles the videos upon loading (same as older versions) -- an understandably different effect than the music shuffle which keeps the songs organized and just jumps to different songs at the end of a track. Now that the video players have been re-worked, we can re-address that and add a "standard" video shuffle feature.
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just installed the new version into my car and what an upgrade! my combo for video is vlc for video since it can take about any type of format and for DVD i'm using WMP. The playback is smooth/loads quick/subtitles work fine/and best of all, full dvd resume. I don't see how anybody can start watching a dvd and then switch off to use either GPS or watch music videos and then come back to have to restart the DVD all over again. Hands down, best upgrade evar! Thanks!!
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is there any chance to be able to send command to mpc..like ROOT MENU..etc?
it doesn't accept sendkeys does it?
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There's a command "ROOTMENU" should work on the 7-1 already. It's possible to make more commands (just let us know exactly what) but I haven't tried sendkeys..
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Quote: Originally Posted by guino View Post
There's a command "ROOTMENU" should work on the 7-1 already. It's possible to make more commands (just let us know exactly what) but I haven't tried sendkeys..

ok, that works OK.. a command for "subtitles" would be nice (to toggle languages etc
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Hi guino,
as written in the PM I sent to you, I can't manage to have native VLC working on RR.
It seems to work in all function except for the PLAY FF and REW function!
It doesn't work also with the default skin...
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Here you'll find the screenshot how it appears...

P.S.:the fullscreen problem was related to the visualization... some resize and it goes well.
I'm sorry for asking you the same problem of the one sent with the previous PM.. but probably other users could have the same problem.
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ok solved... problem doesn't exist...
VLC 1.0.1 works...
(I had the version suggested for the external plugin... :P)
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Out of curiosity: Which commands are used to navigate and select on DVD menus ?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Konrad View Post
Out of curiosity: Which commands are used to navigate and select on DVD menus ?

Each player has different support.. but VLC doesn't provide any DVD commands from through the SDK, so RR can't use any either -- you can navigate the DVD through the MENUS of the DVD itself. I honestly don't know if that's your question, but you were not very specific about which player and type of commands (if RR command, or a player command).
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