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08-02-2008, 05:30 PM
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#226
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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While i'm still updating the builder, it probably be the best time to see why that file was giving you problems. But watch...it will just be my luck that it won't have any issue with that file on my comp...lol
Go on ahead and send it to my addy (yahoo, just add @yahoo.com)in my profile..
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08-02-2008, 05:57 PM
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#227
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Quote: Originally Posted by slvrsol 
hey blue.. great job on the plugin.
I am currently trying to import the song ratings from the popularmeter frame used by windows so I don't have to rate songs again. Looks like I have to do more than just create the rate.in_ file. How can I send a message to update the database? thanks!
Thanks, the rate.in_ file is simply a backup of ratings, just in case one goes and deletes the db file, upon next scan it will use that file to re-add the ratings back into the db. So right now there isn't a really easy way to do this but sometime down the road, I am planning on making a small ratings import wizard that will handle a few different ways that files have been rated and transfer them over to the db.
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08-02-2008, 08:15 PM
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#228
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 152
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 
While i'm still updating the builder, it probably be the best time to see why that file was giving you problems. But watch...it will just be my luck that it won't have any issue with that file on my comp...lol
Go on ahead and send it to my addy (yahoo, just add @yahoo.com)in my profile..
email sent out....with the file...let me know if you dont receive it...
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08-02-2008, 08:19 PM
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#229
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Boy...did I ever receive it!! I think that there might be some gremlins living in that file. I put it as the first file in the scan and WHAM! They started to attach....
Thanks BTW...
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08-03-2008, 03:01 AM
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#230
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Middle GA
Posts: 39
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To anybody having issues with the db failing during scanning or not adding files after scan here is is what worked for me.
First I had two seperate files in my library that were causing the builder to stop running, i.e. freeze. these files, I found, had no data in the tag fields at all... after using a tag editor and renamer on 10,000+ files, these two slipped by and would stop the databuild everytime.
If you have such a file and don't have a tageditor, just use windows...left click properties> details., and add anything into any field, i.e. artist, album, year, etc...
The second issue was that my build would complete but if a certain file or group of files were included in that certain scan, the build would post completed but the songs (all of the included) would not be added.
The causes were either duplicates in the selected files for scanning, excessively long file names (not sure of the character count), or special characters in the file name. I'm not sure as to what characters, I justed removed any $, @, :, <, > and such from the filenames.
I still haven't found the reason for a COM error that I'm receiving. This error allows for the build to continue, just at a snail's pace from the rest of the scan.
So if you are having problems with the browser not working after scan, try scanning a smaller portion of your library and checking the RRmediaDb.db file and making sure that it is getting larger with every scan. If not, check that certain group of files for the issues stated above.
Hope that helps.....
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08-03-2008, 12:44 PM
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#231
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The Last Good Gremlin
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 1,933
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Quote: Originally Posted by ccwild 
To anybody having issues with the db failing during scanning or not adding files after scan here is is what worked for me.
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So if you are having problems with the browser not working after scan, try scanning a smaller portion of your library and checking the RRmediaDb.db file and making sure that it is getting larger with every scan. If not, check that certain group of files for the issues stated above.
I, too, can confirm this works. I have over 8000 mp3s in my library and my initial builds failed.

Looks like something to do with cddbcontrol, probably like ccwild said: mising ID3Tag data.
So I did like he did: ran the database builder on one folder at a time till one worked, then began adding folders to the music path. But a funny thing happened. When I did get an error message it was different.

And as I clicked through it (26 times) it changed.

But it did finish. So just outta curiosity I ran it twice on the same set of files - strangely enough the same errors occurred but the second run said it updated more files to the DB. A third and forth run, said exactly the same thing: Records Updated: xxx
Another issue I noticed is if I delete the "Files Missing Tag Info.txt" file after the initial DB build, its never recreated - gone forever. After some experimentation, I realized this file is only created on the initial build. So if I add files, I'll never know the builder found issues in the ID3 tags.
Lastly, and I know why it is but noone seems to have mentioned it yet, running the builder after the initial build takes 10 times longer than the initial build. So all those folks spouting build times, I'd like to see a comparison of the initial versus subsequent update runs whether or not you've added new files.
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08-03-2008, 12:57 PM
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#232
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Middle GA
Posts: 39
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Gizmo, I think it's something about the last com error you posted (LiteX.LiteStatement.1) that is causing the scan to take longer. I believe that after the error posts, the builder updates all files after that point, even if they have been scanned already. It has to be a certain file causing this because the error happens in the exact same place of the build everytime. I have yet to find the file or group of files causing this error, but I will post when I find it.
At least the scan completes now...
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08-03-2008, 12:58 PM
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#233
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Uh, y are trying to use it as a stand alone? I haven't touched the GUI part of the builder in some time now as that is not really the important part of this..
Depending on the amount of songs that you add between builds the rescans will differ. I do know that doing a whole import is quicker than a recan because on an initial scan there is no having to check: if the file still exists & if its' been modified(tags), its just importing everything..
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08-03-2008, 01:08 PM
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#234
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Some inside info...
The builder dumps the information to be imported at every 5% to a file(db_data.tsv) located at the very root of where you ran the builder from. ie.. Ran from default loc, file would be at "C:\db_data.tsv". So when you get a sql error, the file(s) that are causing the problems should be located in that file(db_data.tsv) as when it tried to import that into the db something was out of place and caused the error to occur.
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08-03-2008, 02:26 PM
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#235
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The Last Good Gremlin
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 1,933
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 
Uh, y are trying to use it as a stand alone? I haven't touched the GUI part of the builder in some time now as that is not really the important part of this..
I couldn't get it to run in the skin so I started debugging stand alone for simplicity sake.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 
Depending on the amount of songs that you add between builds the rescans will differ. I do know that doing a whole import is quicker than a recan because on an initial scan there is no having to check: if the file still exists & if its' been modified(tags), its just importing everything..
I figured as much but it would be nice to know, even on rebuilds, what files have missing items with "Files Missing Tag Info.txt" (and I recognize this is going to add some more time to the rebuild, but I consider it worth it).
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08-03-2008, 03:21 PM
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#236
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27
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What worked for me...
I was having multiple errors with the database, and here's what fixed it for me.
I had an omega character for the O in The Police - Omegaman.mp3 and it was the last file scanned. I tried changing the file name to a regular O but it still hung on the file, so I moved it out of the music path.
The database then hung on importing the ratings files so I moved them out as well, figuring there were some missing files or bad paths in the lists.
Database then was able to finish with 9974 files in 4:17min.
VERY happy with the functions and I'm looking into setting up a sort based on bitrate (just starting so any tips much appreciated, but I still have some search/reading to do). This plugin rocks, and has been the one function missing from RR, thank you for creating it!
I opened the old ratings files in Winamp and used it to clean up the lists and save them as regular backup playlists. Works well enough for me.
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08-03-2008, 03:36 PM
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#237
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Quote: Originally Posted by Coyote65
I was having multiple errors with the database, and here's what fixed it for me.
I had an omega character for the O in The Police - Omegaman.mp3 and it was the last file scanned. I tried changing the file name to a regular O but it still hung on the file, so I moved it out of the music path.
By chance does the title of that song also have that omega char too?
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyote65
The database then hung on importing the ratings files so I moved them out as well, figuring there were some missing files or bad paths in the lists.
Database then was able to finish with 9974 files in 4:17min.
There are checks done when it runs though those rating playlist's. There have been a small number of people have this same issue and is one of the fixes for the next update.
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyote65
VERY happy with the functions and I'm looking into setting up a sort based on bitrate (just starting so any tips much appreciated, but I still have some search/reading to do). This plugin rocks, and has been the one function missing from RR, thank you for creating it!
My plugin db does not contain the bitrate as to me its not really something all that important...
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08-03-2008, 06:25 PM
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#238
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 36
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Ok, I solved the issue I was having. It turns out I had an extra 'rogue' rrmediadb file hidden amongst my original music folder. Removed that db file and wallah problem gone.
I've also seen the com error. I've found that, especially after a failure, looking at the taskbar I will have 3 to 5 db files running. If I close roadrunner, then right click on and select exit on the instances of db will resolve the com issue. I did have an instance or 2 where I had to manually remove the rrmediadb file.
Also found an instance of a song that would lock up the db file import. Turns out that when I opened the file in notepad it stated it was an I-tunes file. Go figure, it shouldn't make a difference. Winamp plays it fine and I could import the song separately or import it with up to 10 other songs. Go to adding the 11th song and ...crash.
hope this helps
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08-03-2008, 07:06 PM
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#239
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The Curator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago area,IL
Posts: 3,565
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Thanks to the ones that are having problems and doing their own research to figure out what is causing their problems and reporting back for both myself and others to lookout for.
I do not have any idea how or why you had more than one builder running as there is a prevention to keep it from running more than one instance, but deff not the case there.
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08-03-2008, 07:45 PM
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#240
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 
By chance does the title of that song also have that omega char too?
It did originally, yes. But it wouldn't import after changing the filename, nor when I changed the tag info. Might be a bad file, too(?)
Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 
There are checks done when it runs though those rating playlist's. My plugin db does not contain the bitrate as to me its not really something all that important...
Poo. Ah well, I've been using winamp to generate a 'high bitrate' playlist, I can keep doing that.
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