Needed: BETA Testers for Google Earth Plugin - Page 10

vinzer · 10-05-2006, 02:22 AM

Just tried it with no internet ! IT WORKS

Thank you Guino

treydogg · 10-06-2006, 10:06 AM

works great!! I have a merlin 360 sprint card so internet connection isn't an issue for me, but I use a pharos 360 for my gps, and it's not compatable with GE. What GPS rec is everyone using?

Sonicxtacy02 · 10-06-2006, 10:17 AM

the gps doesnt have to be compatible with google earth.. just so long as the port is set in rr.ini

treydogg · 10-06-2006, 01:00 PM

ahhhhhh that's good to know I'll go try it now...

treydogg · 10-06-2006, 01:21 PM

woot!! like a champ.. amazing job guino!

now if only ("turn left onto 4-10 West")

guino · 10-06-2006, 01:38 PM

no voice directions will be done on this one buddy, I can tell you that right now. It's almost impossible getting any information OUT of GE.

treydogg · 10-06-2006, 02:30 PM

oh I know guino, it's just 3 hours till quittin time, and I was being silly

RPM_VR4 · 10-07-2006, 05:54 AM

Ok, I have a little more experience with this thing on the road now (in China). I still can't get anything to work except for the GPS though. Fly-To and directions, tour, etc. do nothing.

I am kinda sorry I upgraded to GE4 so I can't use GooPs anymore. We really need a track like GooPs has. We really need the entire track to be saved to a KML so I can replay my route on my home PC. We really need the ability to turn off auto-zoom/angle, auto-rotate, and auto-center on GPS independent of each other (Otherwise there is no way to browse around the map and see your current location at the same time). We really need the ability do have multiple zooms.ini files and switch between them (maybe already possible with auto-it scripts like I did for GooPs, but only if RREarth accepts on-the-fly changes to zooms.ini). Also, can you set different angles for speeds in addition to zooms?

Don't get me wrong Guino, this is awesome work that I'm not trying to put down at all. The direction feature that GooPs lacks is irreplaceable (if I could get it to work on my machine

). Unfortunately the GooPs features listed above that RREarth lacks are also irreplaceable.

guino · 10-07-2006, 12:30 PM

1: Fly-to and directions ONLY work with an ACTIVE internet conection.
2: Fly-to and directions ONLY work in places where road maps are available in GE.
3: You MUST have the language in GE set to ENGLISH.
4: If there's enough people interested I could add support to run goops along with the plugin, However, this also depends on Goops' cooperation.
5: You CAN used goops with GE4 -- in fact GE3 is no longer supported/available by google.
6: I have not seen any example of a KML log file (as I asked) in order to make the plugin save logs in such format
7: The Toggle GPS feature toggles Auto-zoom AND auto-center ON/OFF -- both together. Tilt is COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT. Now, Auto-zoom without auto-center would mean what ? zoom in/out of the current view ? I mean what's the point if you're not seeing the position to wich the auto-zoom relates to ? Just toggle the GPS Off and use the on-map controls to zoom and view whatever the heck you want.
8: Loading multiple zoom files can be implemented.
9: This plugin was NEVER meant to replace Goops -- in fact, from the beginning I wanted cooperation with Goops, however, hardly anyone showed interest in such integration.
10: This is a BETA -- I am still working out bugs and features, in fact I've replaced how things work in the plugin at least 3 times from when I started it. and I am planning to re-do a lot of things today again.

gaslan · 10-07-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

6: I have not seen any example of a KML log file (as I asked) in order to make the plugin save logs in such format

Here you go

I don't know why it has drawn the line over the sea, I don't drive Bond's car

Keep up the good work!!!

guino · 10-07-2006, 03:08 PM

doesn't seem hard to do, question: what did you use to make this file ? goops ? or is that from somewhere else ? I can easily just log the positions from the GPS to a KML file -- this should probably be a separate extension plugin, but isn't that what hsmpt was working on ? http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/rr-plugins-no-longer-supported/80766-loggerr-see-your-trip-google-earth.html

RPM_VR4 · 10-07-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

1: Fly-to and directions ONLY work with an ACTIVE internet conection.

Check.

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

2: Fly-to and directions ONLY work in places where road maps are available in GE.

Check: Used 1950 Sawtelle 90025

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

3: You MUST have the language in GE set to ENGLISH.

Check. Still doesn't work. Maybe it will work on other PCs besides my laptop. Will check as soon as I get back from China.

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

4: If there's enough people interested I could add support to run goops along with the plugin, However, this also depends on Goops' cooperation.

You are so close to supporting the core GooPs features. Really if you just add a track and a "save track to .kmz" I would be pretty happy. Why run two apps when you can just add a few features to RREarth and have a total solution?

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

5: You CAN used goops with GE4 -- in fact GE3 is no longer supported/available by google.

GE4 final is out? Awesome! Will have to upgrade

. Every GE4 beta I tried would crash all the time when trying to use it with GooPs. Plus even before it crashed it would do so very buggy things. Therefore I could only use GooPs with GE3.

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

6: I have not seen any example of a KML log file (as I asked) in order to make the plugin save logs in such format

Attached is my GooPs log from HongKong to my hotel in China (via boat and taxi).

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

7: The Toggle GPS feature toggles Auto-zoom AND auto-center ON/OFF -- both together. Tilt is COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT. Now, Auto-zoom without auto-center would mean what ? zoom in/out of the current view ? I mean what's the point if you're not seeing the position to wich the auto-zoom relates to ? Just toggle the GPS Off and use the on-map controls to zoom and view whatever the heck you want.

1) Tilt shouldn't be independent... script it relative to speed like GooPs does and like you do for zoom already.
2) I often want to zoom in/out while keeping the screen centered on my GPS, they should not be toggled both-together.
3) If I toggle off GPS, not only are auto-zoom/center turned off, but the placemark disappears and I can't even see where I am on the map anymore. I NEVER want the placmark to disappear. I also want a history track that only disappears after a hibernate/resume.

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

8: Loading multiple zoom files can be implemented.

Will test changing zooms.ini on-the-fly as soon as I get the time.

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

9: This plugin was NEVER meant to replace Goops -- in fact, from the beginning I wanted cooperation with Goops, however, hardly anyone showed interest in such integration.

Again, why? With few extra features added, there would be no need for GooPs. Maybe I could help out... would you be willing to send me the RREarth source?

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

10: This is a BETA -- I am still working out bugs and features, in fact I've replaced how things work in the plugin at least 3 times from when I started it. and I am planning to re-do a lot of things today again.

I know this man. Keep up the good work

Another feature request from GooPs: Do not update heading if speed is less than 3 MPH. Right now when I am stopped, RREarth spins the map around like a helicopter. I believe this problem will only present itself with some GPS units. My Delorme was always stable in GooPs even before he added that feature (which someone else requested). Now that I am using a ProGin and RRearth I see how annoying it can be

.

RPM_VR4 · 10-07-2006, 11:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

doesn't seem hard to do, question: what did you use to make this file ? goops ? or is that from somewhere else ? I can easily just log the positions from the GPS to a KML file -- this should probably be a separate extension plugin, but isn't that what hsmpt was working on ? http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80766

Why a seperate extention/plug-in? I want to be able to replay at home the exact same thing I saw in RREarth (with that same zoom-levels and everything). I envision it as more of an RREarth logger than just a GPS logger. With live internet, I'd really like to be able to see the same thing in the car in GE at home live (should be no problem with a network-link to the kmz).

guino · 10-08-2006, 03:51 AM

As long as you're using the beta RR (10/3+), I am puzzled as to why it doesn't work for you... hopefully newer versions will. This plugin is so far behind Goops you have no idea. I mean, Goops creates an entire web server just to hook up with, this plugin works solely with files.

I am not planning to have a "track display" in the map, that's for sure -- I thought that was the most annoying thing in Goops (I like to look at images, if I want to look at drawings I can just run mappoint). However, once I think the main part of the code is stable enough, I could definitely let you play with it so you can add/change whatever you'd like (including track/tilt). Auto-tilt just sounds too gimmicky to my taste. Controlling zoom with auto-center ON involves adding a lot of extra toggles and control code. Displaying the GPS without actually zooming into it will require a lot of changes and experimentations -- this stuff is a lot easier with goops approach (web server based).

I'll add Zooms on the fly done by having multiple INIs you can load with a command.

The tracklog deal should be separate for many reasons, but mainly the fact that users should not be required to run GE in order to log the data, and it would probably be nice to log not only where you've been but also WHEN you've been to the places, and possibly make a playback application to where it can trace all at once, or just replay the track, hopefully with a slider to quick-jump to a time or position.

kolemieux · 10-08-2006, 06:32 AM

Guino - been using this as it grows and is very 'kewl factor" ..... I just added an EVDO router to my one ride the other has a 12000/VIA so the EVDO slaps in. The EVDO router is a but kewl concept...

Just thanks for the development efforts on this...

Quote: Originally Posted by guino

As long as you're using the beta RR (10/3+), I am puzzled as to why it doesn't work for you... hopefully newer versions will. This plugin is so far behind Goops you have no idea. I mean, Goops creates an entire web server just to hook up with, this plugin works solely with files.

I am not planning to have a "track display" in the map, that's for sure -- I thought that was the most annoying thing in Goops (I like to look at images, if I want to look at drawings I can just run mappoint). However, once I think the main part of the code is stable enough, I could definitely let you play with it so you can add/change whatever you'd like (including track/tilt). Auto-tilt just sounds too gimmicky to my taste. Controlling zoom with auto-center ON involves adding a lot of extra toggles and control code. Displaying the GPS without actually zooming into it will require a lot of changes and experimentations -- this stuff is a lot easier with goops approach (web server based).

I'll add Zooms on the fly done by having multiple INIs you can load with a command.

The tracklog deal should be separate for many reasons, but mainly the fact that users should not be required to run GE in order to log the data, and it would probably be nice to log not only where you've been but also WHEN you've been to the places, and possibly make a playback application to where it can trace all at once, or just replay the track, hopefully with a slider to quick-jump to a time or position.

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