2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Page 3

HiJackZX1 · 03-17-2008, 07:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

Thanks for posting the pics of the 06 bezel in the dash.... looks like there is a slight difference in color, not to bad, but enough to notice. Unfortunatly, the wife who drives our Jeep daily isn't going to like that <g>.

I did find a place online who offers the '07 bezel for $98.00, shipping included (Airpark Chrysler Jeep). Darn good deal since most places are selling it for $140+!

As for overheating and under the seats, have you really ruled out the possibility of placing the computer elsewhere? Take a look under the rear seat bench --- you'll be suprised how much room is under there if you've never looked!

P.S. Back on the bezel, what did you use to fill in the gaps from the stock opening to the screen's opening? I saw the picture of like a plastic tray, but wasn't sure if that's what you used or what it was.

Well now adays the space under the seat is getting smaller and smaller, making room for all the electronics for the seat itsself. I dont know how the back seat on a cherokee are, but on my Durango, they leave no space at all since I have those tubble forward seats which allows people to get into the 3rd row. If your willing to throw down money, why not have it mounted onto the back passenger seat. I mean your PC is so small it may fit perfectly into the pocket. I have to have my seat redone by a professional because my PC is large (darn OPUS 320). You can also do like me and have the pocket removed, then the PC mounted in its place then wrapped in the same fabric as your seat (but leave air holes open). When mine is done i'll post pictures for you.

TheSovereign · 03-17-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

Thanks for posting the pics of the 06 bezel in the dash.... looks like there is a slight difference in color, not to bad, but enough to notice. Unfortunatly, the wife who drives our Jeep daily isn't going to like that <g>.

I did find a place online who offers the '07 bezel for $98.00, shipping included (Airpark Chrysler Jeep). Darn good deal since most places are selling it for $140+!

As for overheating and under the seats, have you really ruled out the possibility of placing the computer elsewhere? Take a look under the rear seat bench --- you'll be suprised how much room is under there if you've never looked!

P.S. Back on the bezel, what did you use to fill in the gaps from the stock opening to the screen's opening? I saw the picture of like a plastic tray, but wasn't sure if that's what you used or what it was.

I understand, you have to keep the wife happy... but honestly, the photos really make it look worse than it is; I don't notice the difference. If I had been able to find the '07 bezel for $98 w/ shipping I would have gone that route, but $86 vs $160... yeah... that was a HUGE difference in price and not worth it IMHO.

I believe the tray (post 1, pic 4) you're referring to is the headrest shroud for the Xenarc. It has a 1/4" bevel, and I wound up bending up the bottom and sides in order to fill in the gaps, and using turbocad6's bumper-repair-epoxy technique to adhere and mold all the pieces together.

As far as overheating/relocating the PC is concerned, now that I think about it, the problem only occurred after I selected "floor" heat, when it was cold in the passenger cabin... and after 16 and 18 hours of use. Generally I don't drive for such long periods, and I think now that I have the duct/vent blocked off (you can see how the duct runs below the seat in one of the pics; now the plastic duct doesn't even get warm), I am reasonably confident it won't be an issue next time I take an extended drive and start to feel cold.

Quote: Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

Well now adays the space under the seat is getting smaller and smaller, making room for all the electronics for the seat itsself. I dont know how the back seat on a cherokee are, but on my Durango, they leave no space at all since I have those tubble forward seats which allows people to get into the 3rd row. If your willing to throw down money, why not have it mounted onto the back passenger seat. I mean your PC is so small it may fit perfectly into the pocket. I have to have my seat redone by a professional because my PC is large (darn OPUS 320). You can also do like me and have the pocket removed, then the PC mounted in its place then wrapped in the same fabric as your seat (but leave air holes open). When mine is done i'll post pictures for you.

There is a slight space underneath the rear seats in the GC, but I don't know that it would be large enough to accomodate the PC. As far as the map pocket is concerned, I like the idea, but at the same time I want to keep the vehicle so that I can fairly easily return it back to stock. Not that I plan on parting with it anytime in the near future; I'm just sayin'...

NotYou · 03-17-2008, 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

I believe the tray (post 1, pic 4) you're referring to is the headrest shroud for the Xenarc. It has a 1/4" bevel, and I wound up bending up the bottom and sides in order to fill in the gaps, and using turbocad6's bumper-repair-epoxy technique to adhere and mold all the pieces together

Ahhh, ok. I was hoping it was something you hacked into a perfect fit for the bezel, since I'm about to do something similar to how you have it.

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

As far as overheating/relocating the PC is concerned, now that I think about it, the problem only occurred after I selected "floor" heat, when it was cold in the passenger cabin... and after 16 and 18 hours of use. Generally I don't drive for such long periods, and I think now that I have the duct/vent blocked off (you can see how the duct runs below the seat in one of the pics; now the plastic duct doesn't even get warm), I am reasonably confident it won't be an issue next time I take an extended drive and start to feel cold.

No worries, just an area I found while planning for my install. It's my "backup plan" area for my hardware, but thought it might be an option for you since it's so close to your current spot, and there's enought room for a case to fit in there.

TheSovereign · 03-17-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

I suppose getting this install done is just a matter of having an extra pair of hands to help me on a day that's not too chilly or wet.

Ah yes, I should probably not forget to thank my friend Paul for lending his assistance running the power wire from the battery through the firewall and dash! Thanks buddy, couldn't have gotten that done without you! =)

HiJackZX1 · 03-18-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

There is a slight space underneath the rear seats in the GC, but I don't know that it would be large enough to accomodate the PC. As far as the map pocket is concerned, I like the idea, but at the same time I want to keep the vehicle so that I can fairly easily return it back to stock. Not that I plan on parting with it anytime in the near future; I'm just sayin'...

Yea, I know what you mean about keeping the car as close to original for resale. I tried very hard to go that route and it caused to many restrictions. I am very very happy with my car, so I made the choice to do heavy mods to the interior pieces. I tried to keep it localized to parts I can remove (ex: the center console, dash bezel, and seat) all this can be replaced if I do decide to change cars.

What about a fake floor? Kind of like an extra compartment on the floor that only slightly raises it? That way the PC can be in a box and you can add plenty of air vents?!

TheSovereign · 03-18-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

What about a fake floor? Kind of like an extra compartment on the floor that only slightly raises it? That way the PC can be in a box and you can add plenty of air vents?!

Although the rear seats already seem pretty low to the floor, that might be something worth looking into, if the problem persists... Thanks for the idea. =)

HiJackZX1 · 03-18-2008, 03:19 PM

Im just full of ideas, lol.... here is another, install it in the ceiling.... kinda like a dvd system is in cars like the caravan... but most have a connected screen....

WraithJ · 03-18-2008, 07:03 PM

How you finding centrafuse, im debating whether shelling out for it or not, u check if there is room under the rear floor carpet?

TheSovereign · 03-19-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

Im just full of ideas, lol.... here is another, install it in the ceiling.... kinda like a dvd system is in cars like the caravan... but most have a connected screen....

Hahaha, not in a Grand Cherokee! There's barely enough room for my head, nevermind trying to mount a PC 'over'head... and at 5'10", I'm by no means "tall." Am I the only one who finds the GC to be deceivingly non-spacious? lol

Quote: Originally Posted by WraithJ

How you finding centrafuse, im debating whether shelling out for it or not, u check if there is room under the rear floor carpet?

Centrafuse is.... 'da bomb.' I've liked it since I first laid eyes on it and started using it in '04. IMHO, the best frontend...

... for me.

TheSovereign · 04-06-2008, 03:20 PM

I'm using a Scosche DCC03SRB harness to integrate with the stock speakers.... kinda sounds a bit crappy, like all audio frequencies are being sent to all speakers, perhaps?

Also, it seems that the TPMS system is indicating a fault ever since I implemented the harness... Is it possible that removal of the stock radio could be causing this? (CAN bus)

NotYou · 04-07-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

I'm using a Scosche DCC03SRB harness to integrate with the stock speakers.... kinda sounds a bit crappy, like all audio frequencies are being sent to all speakers, perhaps?

You are correct. The harness doesn't act as a crossover, so either your headunit / computer needs to seperate frequencies for different speakesr, you need to use component speakers with a crossover, or you need to use the crossover feature of your amplifier if it has one. If you have the "premium" boston accoustics upgrade on the Grand Cherokee, then I beleive the amp has bult-in crossover settings due to the seperate types of speakers used in that system.

Quote:

Also, it seems that the TPMS system is indicating a fault ever since I implemented the harness... Is it possible that removal of the stock radio could be causing this? (CAN bus)

Ahhhh... welcome to the TPMS system of the Grand Cherokee -- and this is normal. The TPMS system of the Grand Cherokee's is one of the buggiest out there. Search google and you'll see, and I deal with this as well on our 2007.

Either you really do have low pressure in a tire (also check your spare)... or, more then likely the temperature has been fluctuating outside. The TPMS system doesn't cope with temperature changes too well -- especially when it's warm during the day and drops cold at night, then warms back up again.

It'll be fine some days, and give a fault some other days.. When the temperature outside begins to stabilitize (like summar and winter), then it'll go away. =)

TheSovereign · 04-07-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

You are correct. The harness doesn't act as a crossover, so either your headunit / computer needs to seperate frequencies for different speakesr, you need to use component speakers with a crossover, or you need to use the crossover feature of your amplifier if it has one. If you have the "premium" boston accoustics upgrade on the Grand Cherokee, then I beleive the amp has bult-in crossover settings due to the seperate types of speakers used in that system.

Aaaaaaahcrap. My amp doesn't have a crossover. I don't have the premium audio system. I was afraid I was going to wind up having to replace speakers.

Aaaaaahcrapp.

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

Ahhhh... welcome to the TPMS system of the Grand Cherokee -- and this is normal. The TPMS system of the Grand Cherokee's is one of the buggiest out there. Search google and you'll see, and I deal with this as well on our 2007.

Either you really do have low pressure in a tire (also check your spare)... or, more then likely the temperature has been fluctuating outside. The TPMS system doesn't cope with temperature changes too well -- especially when it's warm during the day and drops cold at night, then warms back up again.

It'll be fine some days, and give a fault some other days.. When the temperature outside begins to stabilitize (like summar and winter), then it'll go away. =)

I didn't check the pressure in the spare, but I don't think it's a low pressure issue. When pressure is low, the idiot light comes on and stays on solid until you figure out which tire is low, and fill it up. I've been through that. What it's doing is periodically coming on, with a warning chime, and then it keeps blinking. If I recall correctly, the manual says this is indicative of a problem with the TPMS system itself. Next time I pick up the manual, I'm going to figure out which fuse is for the TPMS and pull that b!tsh. Hopefully.

Seriously I'd rather not have TPMS than a system that can't tell me wtf is wrong.

NotYou · 04-07-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

Aaaaaaahcrap. My amp doesn't have a crossover. I don't have the premium audio system. I was afraid I was going to wind up having to replace speakers.

Aaaaaahcrapp.

Yea, then you have the full signal going to each speaker. Not sure exactly what type of setup you are going for, but you can either create your own crossover (or more accuratly a filteR), or buy one off of ebay or something similar.

I didn't check the pressure in the spare, but I don't think it's a low pressure issue. When pressure is low, the idiot light comes on and stays on solid until you figure out which tire is low, and fill it up. I've been through that. What it's doing is periodically coming on, with a warning chime, and then it keeps blinking. If I recall correctly, the manual says this is indicative of a problem with the TPMS system itself. Next time I pick up the manual, I'm going to figure out which fuse is for the TPMS and pull that b!tsh. Hopefully.

Seriously I'd rather not have TPMS than a system that can't tell me wtf is wrong.

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Hehhe.. what ours does is come on when the Jeep is started, gives the warning chime, and then just stays on solid. It'll stay like this until the Jeep is turned off. Then, when turned back on it's a 50/50 shot of the same thing happening again. Seriously, though.. this is one of the first things that Jeep has put on their vehicles that is such a pile of cr*p.

We're at the point that even if there WAS a tire with low pressure, I wouldn't beleive it or I would have ignored the warning from the TPMS because of so many false positives =)

TheSovereign · 04-08-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

Yea, then you have the full signal going to each speaker. Not sure exactly what type of setup you are going for, but you can either create your own crossover (or more accuratly a filteR), or buy one off of ebay or something similar.

How are you planning on implementing the audio portion of your install? Do you have the premium audio system with the separate amplifier?

Quote: Originally Posted by NotYou

Hehhe.. what ours does is come on when the Jeep is started, gives the warning chime, and then just stays on solid. It'll stay like this until the Jeep is turned off. Then, when turned back on it's a 50/50 shot of the same thing happening again. Seriously, though.. this is one of the first things that Jeep has put on their vehicles that is such a pile of cr*p.

We're at the point that even if there WAS a tire with low pressure, I wouldn't beleive it or I would have ignored the warning from the TPMS because of so many false positives =)

I hear you. I think I'm going to go flip through that manual to find that fuse now.

NotYou · 04-08-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSovereign

How are you planning on implementing the audio portion of your install? Do you have the premium audio system with the separate amplifier?

I REALLY should sit down and start an install thread, seams like a right of passage here.. =)

I've got the 'premium' Boston accoustics sytem.. Not what I would call 'premium' to be honest, but it's actually not to bad for something from the factory.

I had to pickup the Metra CHTO-01 interface, which ran about $90 after shipping. This will allow me to use the factory amp, and overcome two limitations -- the amp itself is actually turned on by CAN bus signals, and there is no 12v accesory wire easily located. The CHTO-01 gave me both, and is similar to your harness just designed for the premium system. $90 is a little high IMO, but cheaper then investing in a new amplifier -- and the wife won't notice much difference I think.

Do you have 4 or 6 speakers? I couldn't find anything that said how many speakers the non-premium system has. The premium system has 6, and uses its 'DSP' to act as a crossover for the front woofers and tweeters.

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