2002 Suzuki Aerio SX - Page 2

RedGTiVR6 · 07-08-2006, 12:58 AM

http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/connections.htm

and you might just get a kick out of this thread:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/faq-emporium/80483-faq-proper-wire-termination-connection-methods.html#post859726

DavidIQ · 07-08-2006, 09:29 AM

That's just nasty

So now I know the name of the way I connected the wires... "Western Union" splice. So technically I'm halfway there...I guess I'd need to add some soldering to it and I'd be on my way

racerx3165 · 07-08-2006, 10:11 AM

hahaa you'll get there david! go get a iron "NOT A GUN" from radio shack and some 60/40 or silver solder and some heat shrink and life will be good. When we ride the overhead lines "12,470 volts" we use a temp gun to find the hot spots and try and fix them before they melt

wish you could do something like that in a car

obtw looking good! im totally jealous

portabuddy · 07-08-2006, 06:37 PM

I can tell you first hand how bad connections can start fires. for about 5-6 years irana audio intall buisness and I have seen it all, wires wrapped together with duct tape, masking and pachaging tape. i have seen wires compleaply burnned and the carpet sindged or plastis turning black where i wire started to heat up. all sorts of stuff, i have pic and can post them if i find them. the best one was where some one was trying to run a 1000 watt amp off of speaker wire AS A POWER LEAD. that was a 1995 pontiac sinfire and it did burn down almost taking my shop with it. we pushed it out the bay and put the fire out, three extiguishers... another guy got electricuted when the tape peeled off of the wire(i got shocked so many times its not funny) it touched his leg and caused him to spaz hit the brake, then a car hit him.

i take connecions Very SERIOUSLY it not done right the car will burn down. remember when the heat gets at your electrical tape the glue will soften, the tape will harden unferll and let go. personaly i use double walled shrink tube with glue in the center. the glue seals the whole thing making it water tight. ahh safe...

on a good note your connection was very good in that thats how you should make a solder connection, loop the wires around one-another and then twist add heat(flux/acid/rosen if you like(i dont)) and solder then cap it off with a good shrink tube. and zip ties lots of zip ties. it makes everyting neat.

SO STOP BICKERING

racerx3165 · 07-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by portabuddy

another guy got electricuted when the tape peeled off of the wire(i got shocked so many times its not funny) it touched his leg and caused him to spaz hit the brake, then a car hit him.

electrocuted "NO" shocked maybe but with DC from a car it is very uncommon specially since it is only 12v.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/electrocution

Not trying to add to the drama but a good connection is important but not to the point of misleading and false information.

DavidIQ · 07-08-2006, 08:47 PM

Thanks racerx for the compliment.

I'm not bickering with anyone BTW. I just wanted something more concrete than just "that's a bad connection, you should solder or crimp". I've gotten enough feedback to rethink my methods but since nobody had corrected me in the many years I've been doing this I've never bothered changing my methods. Never had an issue with a cable coming lose or from electrical tape just spontaneously coming off which I don't see happening if you put the tape on correctly anyways. There's electrical tape in some places in the engine and that's on there for years and years under much more intense heat than behind the dash.

These "accidents" where most likely cables badly connected with crimps or twisted together and I can fathom that happening in that case. Plus good quality electrical tape won't undo itself. 3M is one of those that will last forever.

Thanks guys for the feedback.

Das · 07-09-2006, 01:55 AM

Heh, I had a rat burn down my boathouse last year. He chewed through the water pump wire and caught on fire, proceeding to run into a wall and caught the whole damn thing on fire.

The only reason I know this is because we found the wires chewed on, and the skeleton of a rat on the other side of the boat house where the fire started. If I didnt have 10K worth of boating equipment in there I would have found it funny as all hell.

More than anything else, soldering is the reason that I take on projects that I don't think I can do. It seems more of an addiction than a necessity, though I have had my dash catch on fire cause I am a dummy. Aftermarket headlights, my headlight switch caught on fire. Be careful, that **** sucks, and it will always happen when you don't want it to, like on a date.

portabuddy · 07-12-2006, 04:06 PM

your right i ment t say shocked not electricuted. and the shock came from some underbody neons that as you may know are transformed from 12v to several hundred(i dont know howmany please tont post...). anyhooo i think that he might learned his lesson.

Keep up the good work i like the install sofar, I'm lagging on my install a bit.

DavidIQ · 07-12-2006, 04:14 PM

FYI for the relief of most I'll be taking out the wiring probably this weekend and soldering all the wires. This might improve sound quality I suspect as well as ground the stero a little better. Will also be messing with RoadRunner program a bit to see if it'll fit my needs. Ordered iGuidance v3.0 upgrade as well in hopes that it'll look better than the version I currently have.

portabuddy · 07-12-2006, 04:24 PM

lol. you gave up. make sure that you make a BIG AND BOLD banner on the front page. wireing has be removed and done right... stop bothering me about it.

lol GL.

DavidIQ · 07-14-2006, 11:18 AM

Yes I gave up!

I'll be stopping at Radio Shack on my way home today to get some shrinkwrap since that's the only thing I don't have (was considering doing the soldering and just taping it back up but I then realized this would be as bad as what you all have been burning me for). At least half of the work is done in regards to this. The soldering shouldn't be too hard. The interesting thing will be finding a good grounding point behind the stereo somewhere.