2002 Suzuki Aerio SX - Page 6

TruckinMP3 · 07-28-2006, 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidIQ

You know...there's a word for women like you. But I'll remain a gentleman and not say it.

I've read some of your other posts when it comes to inexperienced people and most borderline on offensive. SNIP

She has repeatadly attempted to assist you... you have been an idiot about it every time... what did you really expect?

Red GTi VR6 is a large contributor here... you are just muddying the water and being a pain.

Do your own research, all of this has been covered in painfull detail.

Learn to hold your own spoon.

RedGTiVR6 · 07-28-2006, 11:01 AM

No - what you need to understand is that you are quite literally playing with fire.

You are completely inexperienced and have absolutely no desire to try and learn anything more. you yourself even said it. You came on this board only wanting to show off your project. This is not a project you can just throw together, cross your fingers, and hope that it works. You are playing with electricity. That's not a fluffly little stuffed animal, it's a deadly creature.

There is a reason that there are standards. I've tried to explain those to you but you insist on ignoring them. Then you come back in here with more problems. it's quite apparent that you have no desire to be helped or taught or even led in the right direction. So I'm sorry if I come across as a '*****' as you have implied, but quite honnestly, you're not doing yourself any better.

It's been made quite apparent to me that the only way to get a point across to you is for it to A) either come from another male B) have someone laugh and point a finger C) start yelling.

The way you have done things in your ride is nothing short of disgusting and HIGHLY dangerous. I surely hope that you have no little children that you have exposed to this danger as that would be HIGHLY irresponsible.

I've tried to help you on a few occasions and you've refused to listen or even see the point I'm making. So sorry if I've now gotten to the point that I'm disgusted beyond all belief. You want to fry your car and expose both yourself and your wife to these dangers? Be my guest, just don't go and feel sorry for yourself when you didn't even bother to go and even attempt to do your own research to find the proper way of doing things.

From your last sentence, it doesn't even sound like you have your amp remote lead wired up correctly.

I'll leave you to your own vices. I tried to help initially by pointing out that you might want to consider making your connections the proper way. you turned your nose up at that, only to have a multitude of others come in here and say the same things. Lo and behold, you decided that MAYBE you should listen. You then come in here complaing of your fuse popping all the time, when you quite obviously have entirely too much draw to be using A) a stock fuse B) a fuse of a rating of 15amps.

Enjoy your toasted car. Just let me know the vin so I don't happen to stumble across it and consider buying it on a used lot, or even in a junk yard.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TruckinMP3

She has repeatadly attempted to assist you... you have been an idiot about it every time... what did you really expect?

Red GTi VR6 is a large contributor here... you are just muddying the water and being a pain.

So that gives her and anyone else the right to speak whatever way they'd like to others on here? I remind you that this is a forum where people are supposed to help each other even if it is to say to search and that it's been covered before. I'd take even that but not a "you're just anal and don't want to listen". And like I said already...I've taken her advice already and redid my wiring so it's not like I'm not listening to her...I'm just feeling a bit of tension and arrogance and not feeling welcome.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6

No - what you need to understand is that you are quite literally playing with fire.

You are completely inexperienced and have absolutely no desire to try and learn anything more. you yourself even said it. You came on this board only wanting to show off your project. This is not a project you can just throw together, cross your fingers, and hope that it works. You are playing with electricity. That's not a fluffly little stuffed animal, it's a deadly creature.

There is a reason that there are standards. I've tried to explain those to you but you insist on ignoring them. Then you come back in here with more problems. it's quite apparent that you have no desire to be helped or taught or even led in the right direction. So I'm sorry if I come across as a '*****' as you have implied, but quite honnestly, you're not doing yourself any better.

It's been made quite apparent to me that the only way to get a point across to you is for it to A) either come from another male B) have someone laugh and point a finger C) start yelling.

The way you have done things in your ride is nothing short of disgusting and HIGHLY dangerous. I surely hope that you have no little children that you have exposed to this danger as that would be HIGHLY irresponsible.

I've tried to help you on a few occasions and you've refused to listen or even see the point I'm making. So sorry if I've now gotten to the point that I'm disgusted beyond all belief. You want to fry your car and expose both yourself and your wife to these dangers? Be my guest, just don't go and feel sorry for yourself when you didn't even bother to go and even attempt to do your own research to find the proper way of doing things.

From your last sentence, it doesn't even sound like you have your amp remote lead wired up correctly.

I'll leave you to your own vices. I tried to help initially by pointing out that you might want to consider making your connections the proper way. you turned your nose up at that, only to have a multitude of others come in here and say the same things. Lo and behold, you decided that MAYBE you should listen. You then come in here complaing of your fuse popping all the time, when you quite obviously have entirely too much draw to be using A) a stock fuse B) a fuse of a rating of 15amps.

Enjoy your toasted car. Just let me know the vin so I don't happen to stumble across it and consider buying it on a used lot, or even in a junk yard.

I guess you missed the part where I said that the amp lead is a wire straight to where it's supposed to go. You don't know what you're talking about in regards to my setup so I'll break it down for you in simpler terms:
Wire is SCREWED into the amp as it should be.
From there it's wired to the stereo's harness using a splicer.
Added to that is a ton of electrical tape to make sure there are no accidents.
The laptop is powered by an adapter for the car so it's plugged into yet another outlet that has it's power wire spliced into the amp lead and the ground is screwed into the body of the car where another ground is at.
Want to tell me what I did wrong there?

After doing stereo wirings the way I had been doing them for a long time all I was asking was for empirical evidence of why I should do it the way you were saying not just "STFU and do as I say" and so others were able to do that. I would have done it right away and listed on the first try had you answered with a straight-forward answer.

TruckinMP3 · 07-28-2006, 12:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidIQ

SNIP
As for the connections...almost 10 years of installing mine and other's stereos and not once has one caught on fire. I think you're overreacting a bit. The way to do your connections is a matter of opinion. You can either crimp or solder or wire them up as I have...it's all about preference. I don't buy your comment about it being "safer" to do it any of the other ways. What if you don't solder the wires correctly or the crimp isn't tight enough? What then? The wire comes lose and makes contact with God knows what behind the deck. I find that to be a bigger hazard

You are saying right here you know better .... but you do not, not really... not at all.

You earned the treatment you are getting!

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidIQ

I never said I installed at a shop. It's a "hobby".

And why is it "NOT" a matter of opinion? Do you have first hand experience or annecdotes of fires being started in a car because of correctly tied up and taped up stereo connections?

Yet more evidence. Here is an example you might relate to. House wiring is not a matter of opinion.... Codes and best practices exist because someone already made the mistake, sometimes it cost a life. Now we have electrical inspectors to inforce house wiring standards.

I do not want my car insurance to go up because you mess up and start your car on fire.

Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6

never mind, I'm talking to a wall obviously.

Enjoy your install and have a great time with your carpc!

See: it is a warning sign that you are not listening... too late now.

Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=...L&ie=UTF8&om=1

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=c...=UTF8&om=1&f=l

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Even looked up stuff for you... I guess you did not see the spoon.

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidIQ

Didn't even realize there's a whole Power Supplies forum on here

Reading through hundreds of threads now...

Admited you have your eyes closed ... even after we tried to help you.

You get what you ask for, just not what you expect.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 12:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TruckinMP3

You are saying right here you know better .... but you do not, not really... not at all.

You earned the treatment you are getting!

No I don't. I guess you missed the part where I accepted the correction/bashing and redid my wiring. Try reading a bit more next time.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 01:39 PM

Ok...I think I have it now. After over an hour of searching and reading and getting schooled I ran into this thread:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/383433-post.html
which mentions an SPDT relay which can turn on and off the required equipment when the car turns on or off. So I'll be going to the store and getting the relay for this. Also going to look for a power distribution block. This would be the easiest way to put this into practice since the power lead that goes to the amp is plenty thick at 4 gauge and should handle the laptop power easily.

Ok Red... does this sound like a viable plan? Contrary to what you may think...I do value a woman's input

TruckinMP3 · 07-28-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidIQ

No I don't. I guess you missed the part where I accepted the correction/bashing and redid my wiring. Try reading a bit more next time.

Did not miss it... but nice justification. Shortly after that you went right back to the "prove it" to me stance. The breif glimmer of hope died... this defensive post killed it completely.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 03:30 PM

Don't really understand what you're talking about. I didn't ask anyone to prove anything after that whole wiring thing which I eventually corrected (was that not the point of making me feel like a dumbass to begin with?). After I mentioned the fuse popping I didn't ask anyone to prove anything...just asking questions and poking around as to what's going on. Red more than answered that even if it was in an arrogant fashion and I'm taking steps to correct THAT as well. I realize that some of you who know your stuff are worried about everyone's safety and have that "you dumbass" mentality when it comes to not-so-electronics-savvy people such as myself so I can see why you'd be this way...

tj!2k4 · 07-28-2006, 08:34 PM

In German there's a saying which comes to mind when reading through threads like this one:

"Wer nicht hören will muß fühlen" which roughly translates to "he who doesn't want to listen, must experience for himself."

Good luck with the project.

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Das

I would have to say that Jan is one of the most knowledgeable people that I have ever met in my entire life. One of the most patient too.

That being said, this is sooo smart and knows so much about all of it that she cannot fathom how anyone could not take time to research every detail or know of every important detail before implementing something with such disasterous consequences beforehand.

Yeah...I figured as much. She seems very smart and knowledgeable about the topic. Probably should have lurked around before posting and seen that. Oh well...that's what I get

DavidIQ · 07-28-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tj!2k4

In German there's a saying which comes to mind when reading through threads like this one:

"Wer nicht hören will muß fühlen" which roughly translates to "he who doesn't want to listen, must experience for himself."

Good luck with the project.

I've been told I'm hard headed so this might be true

In any case...thanks guys (and gals) for looking out.

RedGTiVR6 · 07-29-2006, 08:44 AM

I was absolutely elated to see that you went through and soldered your joints andheat shrunk them. HUGE step in the right direction. And if you've really stopped and think about this part of the install now, then it's been worth it.

Good luck!

DavidIQ · 07-29-2006, 02:42 PM

Ok...well I blew the fuse today and the laptop wasn't even on...

Here are my observations:
The stereo has it's own fuse which initially doesn't pop.
The accessories fuse doesn't pop right away when I turn on the stereo. The darned thing keeps going as if there's no short.
If I don't turn on the stereo the fuse doesn't pop.
I turned it on and was listening to FM radio for some time and decided to crank it up. After a while the fuse decided to pop.
In troubleshooting this problem which didn't happen with the stock stereo I found that when I replace the accessories fuse the stereo's fuse then pops but everything else is functional indicating that maybe the problem is the head unit. This behaviour only started when the weather got really hot.
Also need to mention that I had the amp and Bazooka already hooked up and working...for 4 years as a matter of fact. The only thing that has changed is the head unit and the laptop being spliced into the amp's remote lead.

Has anyone heard of the headunit causing a short internally but also intermitently? Sounds like maybe the built in amp is overheating and overloading the fuse? I'm going to go through all the connections to make sure I don't have a short somewhere. I went and bought the relay so I'm thinking that maybe I'll run the stereo on this instead of the laptop which should be fine with the power adapter being for the car anyways (not using an inverter). Thoughts?

DavidIQ · 07-29-2006, 03:58 PM

Well...just verified that it's the head unit doing it

Here's what I did:
Replaced blown fuse and turned on car.
Listened to FM radio for a few minutes and then POP went the fuse...
Took the head unit out and unplugged the harness from the back of the stereo.
Replaced blown fuse again and turned on car.
Everything works fine until I plug in the harness then it pops the fuse immediately. After a few minutes I am able to plug in the harness without popping the fuse. Now I'm really stuck...I'll try searching around here to see if this has happened to anyone else.

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