[Release] SKINbedder BETA 2.99999 - Page 2

0l33l · 07-05-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3

Great...now just need that usb radio and the light upgrade kit...then i can get closer ot finishing my install

So RR embeds it perfectly now? Sweet

Blue ZX3 · 07-05-2005, 03:02 PM

I didn't say that yet...I'm still at work...

0l33l · 07-05-2005, 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3

I didn't say that yet...I'm still at work...

Oooh... ok.

psyrex · 07-05-2005, 09:08 PM

Yay, new version!... but I'm still seeing a similar behavior as before, 0l33l

Let me know if the following produces the same effect for you. I'm only going to mention the height and top of Sb and the rest of the settings in the ini shouldn't matter:

First move the taskbar so you can see the entire vertical space. Hide it or just reposition it to the side.

Test 1: Set "FormTop" to be 0 and the "FormHeight" to be larger than your vertical resolution (I set mine to 2000). The result is as expected, that you can see Sb's title bar but the bottom drops past the screen.

Test 2: Start nudging the "FormTop" into the negatives and leave "FormHeight" as is. You should start to see the bottom border of Sb by -10 and the whole bottom border at -12.

Thus it seems like the FormHeight is not 2000 (or whatever you set it to), but rather that FormHeight is limited to vertical resolution plus 12.

So... is this a bug with the code or a limitation of programming for windows? It seems like most people will embed Sb into another front end, so this issue probably doesn't matter to them. If this is an issue that cannot be resolved, I'll probably just change the title bar color to black and suck up the 13 lines of black pixels.

-psyrex

Wiredwrx · 07-05-2005, 09:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 0l33l

Oooh... ok.

Dude, what is with all the new fields in the INI.

I can't figure out what is what.

What the heck is [panel] and all the [ig....] fields for. Where are the nudge settings for the IG screen.

What is all that stuff, and what does it do. What should/could I change?

Also, I don't see any [programs] or [WindowsDisplaySettings] in the ini.

Michael

psyrex · 07-05-2005, 09:15 PM

Hmm, actually, I just realized I could change the size of the title bar by making it use a smaller font... so I have my solution, but I guess the issue still exists but is not as serious.

-psyrex

0l33l · 07-05-2005, 09:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by psyrex

Yay, new version!... but I'm still seeing a similar behavior as before, 0l33l

Let me know if the following produces the same effect for you. I'm only going to mention the height and top of Sb and the rest of the settings in the ini shouldn't matter:

First move the taskbar so you can see the entire vertical space. Hide it or just reposition it to the side.

Test 1: Set "FormTop" to be 0 and the "FormHeight" to be larger than your vertical resolution (I set mine to 2000). The result is as expected, that you can see Sb's title bar but the bottom drops past the screen.

Test 2: Start nudging the "FormTop" into the negatives and leave "FormHeight" as is. You should start to see the bottom border of Sb by -10 and the whole bottom border at -12.

Thus it seems like the FormHeight is not 2000 (or whatever you set it to), but rather that FormHeight is limited to vertical resolution plus 12.

So... is this a bug with the code or a limitation of programming for windows? It seems like most people will embed Sb into another front end, so this issue probably doesn't matter to them. If this is an issue that cannot be resolved, I'll probably just change the title bar color to black and suck up the 13 lines of black pixels.

-psyrex

Huh? Why are you increasing its size? You test it out by just running it, and to test it out fullscreen maximize it. No need to set anything to greather than your resolution.

Basically, we stretch the window, but also keep the same dimentions off the screen.

0l33l · 07-05-2005, 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wiredwrx

Dude, what is with all the new fields in the INI.

I can't figure out what is what.

What the heck is [panel] and all the [ig....] fields for. Where are the nudge settings for the IG screen.

What is all that stuff, and what does it do. What should/could I change?

Also, I don't see any [programs] or [WindowsDisplaySettings] in the ini.

Michael

[panels] is all the panels that can be embedded. So say we're looking at
iGGPS=MyToolWndClass, GPS Info

iGGPS is the name... look for it a bit down. MyToolWndClass is its class name. GPS Info is its title.

Now look for [iGGPS]. Its self explanitory from then on.

psyrex · 07-05-2005, 09:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 0l33l

Huh? Why are you increasing its size? You test it out by just running it, and to test it out fullscreen maximize it. No need to set anything to greather than your resolution.

Basically, we stretch the window, but also keep the same dimentions off the screen.

To try to make Sb look more OEM, I've been nudging the title bar offscreen. But when I do this, the bottom becomes visible because the total height of Sb was 1036px (1024 + 12). If Sb could maintain a height of 1049px (1024 + 25), then I could nudge the title bar off the top and still not have the bottom border visible.

-psyrex

0l33l · 07-05-2005, 09:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by psyrex

To try to make Sb look more OEM, I've been nudging the title bar offscreen. But when I do this, the bottom becomes visible because the total height of Sb was 1036px (1024 + 12). If Sb could maintain a height of 1049px (1024 + 25), then I could nudge the title bar off the top and still not have the bottom border visible.

-psyrex

Huh? WTF? Go back to the original values from the INI. What didn't you like about them? All the controls were off the screen.

tj!2k4 · 07-05-2005, 09:53 PM

psyrex - what are you embedding into Skinbedder?

RPM_VR4 · 07-05-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by psyrex

Hmm, actually, I just realized I could change the size of the title bar by making it use a smaller font... so I have my solution, but I guess the issue still exists but is not as serious.

-psyrex

I have no idea what you are talking about either. Sorry.
If you can explaine it better I will look in to it.

FYI: Nudges settings should never be negative unless you want to have part of the "panel" showing (which will be the color set by "PanelColor=" in the INI). Use only positive values to hide the edges of an embedded window.

Also, WindowsWindowTitleBarSize and WindowsBoarderSize factor in to the nudging (and they should be set to whatever you have in your Display Properties -> Appearance -> Advanced). This is we can have a button that will "un-nudge" a window revealing its menu-bar, status-bar, and button-bar, but while still hiding the window-boarder and the window title-bar.

RE 3D-View: I haven't made a "toggle" button yet, but it will be done when integrating AutoIt event scripts for each button (which is the next thing I am going to do now).

RPM_VR4 · 07-05-2005, 10:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by psyrex

To try to make Sb look more OEM, I've been nudging the title bar offscreen. But when I do this, the bottom becomes visible because the total height of Sb was 1036px (1024 + 12). If Sb could maintain a height of 1049px (1024 + 25), then I could nudge the title bar off the top and still not have the bottom border visible.

-psyrex

Ok, I might understand now... do you want us to make it so that when you launch skinbedder, it's main form is shown in a square without the title-bar and boarder? I think I can do that. Most people embedd SKINbedder into a front-end so it dissapears anyway. I believe the problem you found with trying to make SKINbedder a full-screen app is a limitation of Microsoft Windows.

Should I make it always hide the boarders & title-bar, or should I just make a setting to launch in "full-screen" (which would ignore the Form Left,Top,Width,Height settings), or should we have both.

If we only had full-screen, I could make the title-bar maximize button also go to full-screen. Of course, if it will always just be a square then the title-bar is gone and you don't have a maximize button. Should we make it catch "Alt-Enter" for full-screen?

BTW: What are you doing psyrex? Have you made buttons for your SKINbedder "front-end"? I would like to know more.

Wiredwrx · 07-05-2005, 10:26 PM

Well, this is what happens when I try to embed it.

How can I fix this.

Top toolbar is still there, and no "street" name on the bottom.

psyrex · 07-05-2005, 10:29 PM

What I was trying to do was to push Sb outside of visible area (see attached chicken scratchings) so that iG fills up the entire 800x480, no borders or title bar. The iG panel is adjusted such that its titlebar/menu/border is not visible. The entire Sb titlebar/border is adjusted so it's entirely outside of the visible area.

The dimensions for Sb shown below is off the top of my head. I believe it's 23 pixels for top border plus title bar, and 3 pixels for borders on all the other sides (thus the 800+6 by 480+26 dimensions for Sb). Top offset is -23, and left offset is -3.

-psyrex