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Old 09-24-2009, 09:00 PM   #46
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FYI, RevFE supports Album art, both in id3 tag and from Folder.jpg files. No skins support it atm though.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:11 PM   #47
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blue ZX3 View Post
"RoadRunnerMM MediaInfo SQLite (external exe)"

Would like to point out that the sql exe is only used for the large data dumps to the db. all other db operations are done via dll

RRMedia does support external art (image in folder)

So was the sql exe used for the indexing or just the dll?

Yes I was aware that it supports folder images....but the test was on tag reading abilities - and the row is labeled "ID3 Cover Support".

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FYI, RevFE supports Album art, both in id3 tag and from Folder.jpg files. No skins support it atm though.

There was no cover column in the database which is why I said not yet instead of no.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:33 PM   #48
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Just for the dumping of the gathered info from files to the db, as that was the quickest way I had found after trying a few different ways. All queries and executes are done using a dll. I'm not really big in the embeding everything into every song from the same album, kinda pointless in my book, though compilation albums are a slightly diff story.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:45 PM   #49
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Just for the dumping of the gathered info from files to the db, as that was the quickest way I had found after trying a few different ways. All queries and executes are done using a dll. I'm not really big in the embeding everything into every song from the same album, kinda pointless in my book, though compilation albums are a slightly diff story.

A lot of songs that are downloaded (through legal means like itunes/amazon, have embedded artwork in the tag. IMHO, looking in a folder for a special filename doesn't sound portable to me. Besides, I've seen tracks that have different artwork and multiple image frames that don't exist in the other tracks (possibly from a single that was done...).

So I guess we learn that the slowness may be attributed to extra things done during the scan? I know nGhost will try to download the artwork from the internet if you have the artgrabber plugin enabled. That would certainly add to the scan time.
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A lot of songs that are downloaded (through legal means like itunes/amazon, have embedded artwork in the tag)

Yes, I would agree as well, but really think that the extra "legal means" was not needed as that makes it sound like all/most of US forum members only illegally download music. I can and will say that I am not part of the "US" group.

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IMHO, looking in a folder for a special filename doesn't sound portable to me.

Who said anything about it having to be a special file name in order for it to be used?

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So I guess we learn that the slowness may be attributed to extra things done during the scan?

Very true..
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A lot of songs that are downloaded (through legal means like itunes/amazon, have embedded artwork in the tag. IMHO, looking in a folder for a special filename doesn't sound portable to me. Besides, I've seen tracks that have different artwork and multiple image frames that don't exist in the other tracks (possibly from a single that was done...).

I think by from legal sources he was implying that both legal and illegal downloads include cover art in the file tags...not that forum members were pirates.
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So I guess we learn that the slowness may be attributed to extra things done during the scan? I know nGhost will try to download the artwork from the internet if you have the artgrabber plugin enabled. That would certainly add to the scan time.

Well the surprising thing is that the three fastest scans did have album art support...I really feel its down to the core technology behind them.

For riderunner - best speeds were achieved using an external exe most likely because threading isn't possible with vb hence slower speeds using a dll. The speeds were still not as good as the top 3 due to the inherent overhead of IPC.

For cf - using a jet database (Labeled obsolete by msft after 2003) has an obvious performance impact although not as bad as I would have expected.

sd - i don't even think thats worth mentioning. I'll leave it at - i don't plan on using wmp for my music library anymore.

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Who said anything about it having to be a special file name in order for it to be used?

Folder.jpg is technically a special file name. It is used by both the OS and media programs as a fallback for album art.
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I think by from legal sources he was implying that both legal and illegal downloads include cover art in the file tags...not that forum members were pirates.

Right. I was arguing the importance of tag-based-album reading as opposed to magic filename reading. Besides, I find that illegally downloaded music is usually also well tagged and often has embedded album art as well.
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+1 for tag-based album reading. I spend a long time tagging my files with lyrics, ratings, etc. Forget folder and file names, tags should have priority.
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