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11-26-2007, 08:49 AM
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#121
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 656
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Plenty of work to do P?
Well, it gives me good hope to know that -eA works!
BR. B-O
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11-26-2007, 10:06 AM
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#122
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nr Aylesbury, UK
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Right, having popped out to PCWorld and picked myself up an external USB SB Live box I've noticed my amplifier has a couple of small problems. They are not related to this thread so I shall post them on the hardware thread.
Carl
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11-27-2007, 05:44 AM
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#123
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nr Aylesbury, UK
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-eA input and volume selection
Luc,
I maybe asking alot of you here so please be direct  what I could do with initially to get -eA working is a method of selecting the desired input (i.e. CD input) and adjusting the amp volume independent of CPCTuner that can be controlled via RR.
Is that something you could do please?
Edited to add: It just occurred to me that RR needs to know to talk to the -eA and not the sound card  I'm not sure if this is doable?
Carl
Last edited by Aspectcarl; 11-27-2007 at 06:02 AM.
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11-28-2007, 06:50 AM
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#124
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 374
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Damn I just bought the HQCT -e hope the detection issue is easy to solved as I should have it by next week.
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Parts list - in AUD$
Lilliput 629 $270 | Hitachi 5400RPM 80G $92 | PIO DVR-K05 slot $95 | AYAY SIR Quad port GPS $160 | DSATX 220W PSU $205 | Mechatroniks Bezel $186 | Kino-9453 MB $380 | A-Data DDR2 667 2Gig $140 | 2 X CCD Cameras $180 | HQCT -e $140 |
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11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
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#125
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 181
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aspectcarl 
Luc,
I maybe asking alot of you here so please be direct  what I could do with initially to get -eA working is a method of selecting the desired input (i.e. CD input) and adjusting the amp volume independent of CPCTuner that can be controlled via RR.
Is that something you could do please?
Edited to add: It just occurred to me that RR needs to know to talk to the -eA and not the sound card  I'm not sure if this is doable?
Carl
How direct would you want me to be as I saw just a minute ago that you ordered a Silabs USB dongle? 
Don't worry, I'm not gonna blame you for anything. I also have a Silabs radio but never used it in my car, tests indoors proved to me that I could save myself the trouble of soldering a coax to the thing. Now you can also compare HQCT with Silabs in a while and you can draw your own conclusions then.
The interface part in CPCTuner is changed on PaulKaye's request, he's building a plugin for RR to use for all HQCT functions including switching audio sources, full sound control like volume, bass, treble, balance and fader change and more. Only thing is that it's been a while since we had contact, I need to send hime an email to see how he's doing and if he made any progress lately. I still need to do some testing/debugging on the subject, the code is already implemented but is not stable yet.
Regards,
Luc
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11-28-2007, 04:55 PM
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#126
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 181
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Quote: Originally Posted by bes51659 
Plenty of work to do P?
Well, it gives me good hope to know that -eA works!
BR. B-O
Doing my best to get things going but I had a total of 30 minutes to spent on my pc this weekend 
Don't give it up yet!
CU,
Putput
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11-28-2007, 05:15 PM
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#127
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 656
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Give up?!!!!
I bought the first parts for my carputer on ebay two years ago and my car is getting older by the decade :-)
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11-28-2007, 06:11 PM
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#128
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nr Aylesbury, UK
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Quote: Originally Posted by Putput 
How direct would you want me to be as I saw just a minute ago that you ordered a Silabs USB dongle? 
Don't worry, I'm not gonna blame you for anything. I also have a Silabs radio but never used it in my car, tests indoors proved to me that I could save myself the trouble of soldering a coax to the thing. Now you can also compare HQCT with Silabs in a while and you can draw your own conclusions then.
The interface part in CPCTuner is changed on PaulKaye's request, he's building a plugin for RR to use for all HQCT functions including switching audio sources, full sound control like volume, bass, treble, balance and fader change and more. Only thing is that it's been a while since we had contact, I need to send hime an email to see how he's doing and if he made any progress lately. I still need to do some testing/debugging on the subject, the code is already implemented but is not stable yet.
Regards,
Luc
Heh
I plumped for the Silabs cos I'm driving around 2,500KM per month with no audio and only my only company and it's driving me bonkers.
It'd be great to get the HQCT running at some point seeing what it cost me and it's size and packaging is great which means it's easier to tuck away!
I tested my mac and external SB Live hooked up to my Genesis amp and was very happy with the result, no noise at all. Just some weird noise from the SB Live until the drivers load. The genesis amp doesn't fit in the small spaces that the HQCT can tho.
Be great to see some software support for the -eA soon
Carl
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11-28-2007, 07:08 PM
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#129
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 374
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Quote: Originally Posted by bes51659 
Give up?!!!!
I bought the first parts for my carputer on ebay two years ago and my car is getting older by the decade :-)
I'm laughing cause my car PC has taken 2 years to build too
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Parts list - in AUD$
Lilliput 629 $270 | Hitachi 5400RPM 80G $92 | PIO DVR-K05 slot $95 | AYAY SIR Quad port GPS $160 | DSATX 220W PSU $205 | Mechatroniks Bezel $186 | Kino-9453 MB $380 | A-Data DDR2 667 2Gig $140 | 2 X CCD Cameras $180 | HQCT -e $140 |
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11-29-2007, 04:58 AM
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#130
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Belgium
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aspectcarl 
Heh
I plumped for the Silabs cos I'm driving around 2,500KM per month with no audio and only my only company and it's driving me bonkers.
Carl
Understand what you're problem is, I'll see what I can do to get the -eA and RR back on track again and to put radio in your car. My second problem (apart from a shortage of time) is that since I changed jobs I also have a new (company) car with no car-PC installed, this is why I also need to do a completely new build. This means that I have radio (pre-installed) in my car but no PC. We need to organize a poll to see what is worst  .
And about my first install it wasn't even finished before I had to take it out of the car. But this gives me the opportunity to start again, avoiding all the mistakes I made in the first install.
Cheers,
Luc
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11-29-2007, 11:58 AM
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#131
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nr Aylesbury, UK
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The Silabs stick is nice and cheap and I can use it in the house when the -eA is working, the plan was to sell the Genesis 4 channel amp once I was happy with the -eA's performance as well.
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11-29-2007, 05:05 PM
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#132
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 181
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Decription of RR interface in latest build:
Hello,
Here's the code from CPCTuner that handles the RR interface commands:
Code:
// RR_V holds value after ';' when the command is numeric
// RR_C holds RR command
// RR_C1 holds value after ';' when the command is alfa-numeric
// HQCTuner is the HQCT object
// SendToRR is a function that sends data to RR
case RRCommand of
tune :
begin
// Check if we have to switch between AM/FM for new frequency
if (RR_V < 6700) then
begin
// New AM freq from rr
if HQCTuner.FMBand then
HQCTuner.FMBand := false;
if RR_V <> HQCTuner.FrequencyAM then
HQCTuner.FrequencyAM := RR_V;
end;
if (RR_V >= 6700) then
begin
if not HQCTuner.FMBand then
HQCTuner.FMBand := true;
if RR_V <> HQCTuner.FrequencyFM then
HQCTuner.FrequencyFM := RR_V;
end;
end;
seekup : HQCTuner.ScanStations(ScanUp, false);
seekdn : HQCTuner.ScanStations(ScanDown, false);
mute : HQCTuner.Mute := not HQCTuner.Mute;
step : HQCTuner.FMStepOffset := RR_V;
source :
begin
case TRRSource(ansiindextext(RR_C, RRSource)) of
// TunerSrc, CDSrc, PhoneSrc, NaviSrc
radio : HQCTuner.SoundSource := TunerSrc;
aux1 : HQCTuner.SoundSource := CDSrc;
aux2 : HQCTuner.SoundSource := AUXSrc;
nav : HQCTuner.SoundSource := NaviSrc;
phone : HQCTuner.SoundSource := PhoneSrc;
else
end;
end;
setvol : HQCTuner.Volume := RR_V;
setbass : HQCTuner.Bass := RR_V;
settreble : HQCTuner.Treble := RR_V;
setmute : if (RR_V > 0) then HQCTuner.Mute := true else HQCTuner.Mute := false;
switchinput :
begin
if copy(w_s, Pos(';', w_s) + 1, 2) = 'on' then
begin
// Save current source
CurrentSource := HQCTuner.SoundSource;
// switch to new source
if LeftStr(w_s, 3) = 'dio' then
HQCTuner.SoundSource := TunerSrc
else
if LeftStr(w_s, 3) = 'ux1' then
HQCTuner.SoundSource := CDSrc
else
if LeftStr(w_s, 3) = 'ux2' then
HQCTuner.SoundSource := AUXSrc
else
if LeftStr(w_s, 3) = 'nav' then
HQCTuner.SoundSource := NaviSrc
else
if LeftStr(w_s, 3) = 'one' then
HQCTuner.SoundSource := PhoneSrc;
end
else
// switch to previous source
HQCTuner.SoundSource := CurrentSource;
end;
rvol : SendToRR('rvol;' + IntToStr(HQCTuner.Volume));
rtreble : SendToRR('rtreble;' + IntToStr(HQCTuner.Treble));
rbass : SendToRR('rbass;' + IntToStr(HQCTuner.Bass));
else
end;
It's possible to control the following CPCTuner functions:
- switch (frequency AM/FM)
- seek (a station up)
- seek (a station down)
- mute (toggles)
- step (step is used when CPCTuner starts seek, be carefull, no value check yet, use 10 for 0.1Mhz in FM; 20 for 0.2Mhz)
- source (switch between audio sources)
- setvol (change volume between 0 and 68)
- settreble (change treble between 0 and 7)
- setbass (change bass between 0 and 7)
- setmute (0=unmute, 1=mute)
- switchinput (switch between audio sources, special)
- rvol (read current volume)
- rtreble (read current treble)
- rbass (read current bass)
A lot of these functions are specified more in detail in this post from PaulKaye.
So if you need to change the volume in the -eA version, use the setvol command with a value between 0 and 68, or the source command to change between radio/CD/phone ... So all you have to do is add a slider or button to RR and send the correct message.
Have fun!
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11-30-2007, 01:57 PM
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#133
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nr Aylesbury, UK
Posts: 28
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Luc,
I'm very new to RR, are you saying that a suitably modified RR skin is ready to control the -eA via CPCTuner?
All the tuner functions worked, but I couldn't swap sources nor control volumes or tone.
Cheers
Carl
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11-30-2007, 03:07 PM
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#134
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 656
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Hi Luc!
I downloaded the new 1.1.1.50. Small change in log file. http://web.comhem.se/bengt-olof.swing/20071130Log.txt
I also tried the new dll and runned it with vb example. I did <start>, end then pressed <FM>.
Do you get any clues from this?
Cheers, B-O
Ps.
One little ide. If the logfile contains version info there will be no question what sw that was acctually run at the time.
Ds.
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11-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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#135
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 181
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aspectcarl 
Luc,
I'm very new to RR, are you saying that a suitably modified RR skin is ready to control the -eA via CPCTuner?
Carl
Yes, I modified the interface (Windows messages) so that the -eA version can be controlled via RR. Of course RR needs to be modified for this. The description of the messages can be found in my previous post. I also have a little test program I use (see attachment), its very simple. Start the test program, then start CPCTuner and you can control CPCTuner by typing messages in the text box and push enter or the Send button. The listbox shows messages that are sent to RR. You can use this tool to help test the commands that need to be send to CPCTuner.
Quote: Originally Posted by Aspectcarl 
Luc,
All the tuner functions worked, but I couldn't swap sources nor control volumes or tone.
Carl
You mean via RR then? This is normal, RR doens't send the right commands yet to CPCTuner to change volume, source and or tone.
I will send an email to PaulKaye tomorrow and ask him if he has made any progress on his -eA interface for RR. After all he asked me to change the interface.
Success!
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