Sponsored links

Go Back   MP3Car.com > Mp3Car Technical > Software & Software Development


Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-30-2009, 01:37 AM   #1
Constant Bitrate
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 175
djurchicprelude is on a distinguished road
Windows on fresh Hard Drive...

So Ive been without a carpc for atleast half a year now and finally yesturday I bought a new Hard drive, Motherboard and memory... Well i started putting everything together tonight and ran into a little problem. The new motherboard and hard drive is sata. while my old home pc is the older kind of connection. reason im saying this is because the way i used to put windows on a new hard drive was connect the carpc motherboard and hard drive to my desktop power supply and install it that way.

So question is: Now that all my new stuff is sata how do I got about putting windows on the new hard drive? Thanks!
djurchicprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Sponsored links

Old 09-30-2009, 02:51 AM   #2
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 35
hairyMerkin is an unknown quantity at this point
http://www.custompcblog.com/troubles...ata-hard-drive
hairyMerkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 07:24 AM   #3
Neither darque nor pervert
 
DarquePervert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 12,911
DarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of light
Since you have all new hardware, do a fresh installation.
You'll be better off.
__________________
LOOKING FOR THE FAQ? IT'S HERE.
You never found that link, did you? Why? It's hard to find in the NavBar across the top of the forums, amongst a lot of other crap.

TELL MP3CAR YOU WANT A LINK TO THE FAQ IN A MORE OBVIOUS, NOTICABLE LOCATION HERE.
DarquePervert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 07:29 AM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Northern England
Posts: 39
FirstAid is an unknown quantity at this point
What kind of DC-DC PSU do you use?

With my M2 I just connect the power in and remote in upto a 12v rail from a standard ATX PSU.

Very easy to set up, let us know if you need more info.
FirstAid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 11:40 AM   #5
Constant Bitrate
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 175
djurchicprelude is on a distinguished road
Quote: Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
Since you have all new hardware, do a fresh installation.
You'll be better off.

Thats exactly what I want to do, Just dont know how to power the hard drive since I dont have a SATA on my Desktop

Quote: Originally Posted by FirstAid View Post
What kind of DC-DC PSU do you use?

With my M2 I just connect the power in and remote in upto a 12v rail from a standard ATX PSU.

Very easy to set up, let us know if you need more info.

Yes Please let me know how your doing this. Thanks! Oh and I use a m2-atx

Last edited by djurchicprelude; 09-30-2009 at 12:47 PM.
djurchicprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 12:50 PM   #6
Constant Bitrate
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 175
djurchicprelude is on a distinguished road
Quote: Originally Posted by hairyMerkin View Post

Wow, are all these steps really necessary? What if you don’t have a floppy drive?? Who now a days has one of those? From what I always thought, you just plug in the hard drive, throw the windows CD in the drive and its boots from the windows CD to install the operating system?
djurchicprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 06:38 PM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 34
locs4dayz is an unknown quantity at this point
Go to ebay and purchase one of these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

It allows you to hook your sata laptop hard drive to your desktop like a regular hard drive. Then install windows on it as usual. Once you are finished with the install, transfer your hard drive to your Car PC. The NTDLR file will be missing, but easily fixed using fixboot using recovery console...Thats how I did mine!!!!

Or in your case you could use this option to hook you cdrom to you new mobo via usb...

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-to-IDE-S...d=p3286.c0.m14

This way(assuming you don't have a cdrom in you Car PC setup) you can use your desktop PC cdrom. Then everything would work without doing anything else after Windows is installed. Hope these options help!!!

Last edited by locs4dayz; 09-30-2009 at 07:07 PM.
locs4dayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2009, 07:05 PM   #8
Neither darque nor pervert
 
DarquePervert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elsewhere
Posts: 12,911
DarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of lightDarquePervert is a glorious beacon of light
Quote: Originally Posted by djurchicprelude View Post
Wow, are all these steps really necessary? What if you don’t have a floppy drive?? Who now a days has one of those? From what I always thought, you just plug in the hard drive, throw the windows CD in the drive and its boots from the windows CD to install the operating system?

You're correct. You can just boot from the CD and install to the hard drive..
And that's what you should do, especially since you are going to all new (and different, I assume) hardware.
__________________
LOOKING FOR THE FAQ? IT'S HERE.
You never found that link, did you? Why? It's hard to find in the NavBar across the top of the forums, amongst a lot of other crap.

TELL MP3CAR YOU WANT A LINK TO THE FAQ IN A MORE OBVIOUS, NOTICABLE LOCATION HERE.
DarquePervert is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Old 09-30-2009, 07:53 PM   #9
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 34
locs4dayz is an unknown quantity at this point
Did a little more searching on ebay for you...Here is your power solution....

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-IDE-to-Serial-...d=p3286.c0.m14

This should be all you need to do your install like you are accustomed to with no extra work....What do you think?
locs4dayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2009, 01:46 AM   #10
Variable Bitrate
 
dMand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Evergreen State, Washington
Posts: 340
dMand is an unknown quantity at this point
Buy the adapter as locs4dayz above me suggested. It's cheaper to buy the power adapter (4pin molex to serial ATA) than it is to get a new power supply.

If you are installing Windows XP you will need the manufacturer's driver for your specific motherboard RAID chipset; aka SATA DRIVERS.

There are other options as a work around, one of them is to install Windows Vista and not worry about those drivers because the DVD already has them preloaded.

Don't fret, you can slipstream said SATA drivers using NLite onto a revised Windows XP installation CD. With XP, you are required to have a floppy drive on hand to install SATA hard disk drivers prior to the actual WindowsXP installation.

Slipstreaming is a way of integrating these specific drivers together into the installation so that you don't need to buy a floppy drive. However, if you do have a floppy drive, boot from the XP CD, and Press F6 to install the SATA (.inf driver file) that you just downloaded to a floppy disk, and proceed with the on screen instructions.


Nlite download- program used to integrate your drivers onto a REVISED XP installation CD.
http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

Slipstream instruction guide:
http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html


Also, as an alternative, if your new motherboard has both of the SATA and IDE interface connectors. Install a fresh copy of Windows XP on to the old IDE drive, followed by the SATA drivers, and then install Western Digital's DataLife hard drive software.

After you're done with that, Plug in the new SATA hard drive and transfer XP to it using the DataLife program. Then disconnect the IDE drive, and upon reboot, change your target boot device to the SATA hard disk and you're set!

Download the Windows version of DataLife here:

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=612&sid=3〈=en

Last edited by dMand; 10-01-2009 at 02:21 AM.
dMand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2009, 09:44 AM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 34
locs4dayz is an unknown quantity at this point
I don't recall installing any raid drivers when I did mine dMand... How would that affect performance? My system works, but its still a little buggy... Enough to irritate me!
locs4dayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2009, 10:18 AM   #12
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Northern England
Posts: 39
FirstAid is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote: Originally Posted by djurchicprelude View Post
Thats exactly what I want to do, Just dont know how to power the hard drive since I dont have a SATA on my Desktop



Yes Please let me know how your doing this. Thanks! Oh and I use a m2-atx


First you need to purchase one of these adaptors for a dollar, this way you don't need to cut any wires on your atx power supply. You need to cut the yellow wire and the black wire next to it on the adaptor, these are your 12v and 0v rails. Connect the power in and remote turn on of your M2 to the yellow and the ground of your M2 to the black cable.
Once you have done this and made sure you have properly insulated the joints you made with insulating tape or something similar to ensure you don't shock yourself/fry your carputer you can connect this adaptor to a spare molex socket in your desktop PC.
Switch on your desktop PC and your carputer will come to life 5 seconds later.

Now installing sata drivers may well be your next hurdle although I have found some combinations of certain motherboards and certains versions of XP don't need any drivers from a floppy or slipstreamed cd/dvd. I'll leave the sata installation part to somebody else to help you with as slipstreaming takes some time and patience, usb floppy drives are quite a cheap and easy solution though.

I'll post pics tomorrow if you like?


Good luck.
FirstAid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2009, 11:14 AM   #13
Constant Bitrate
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 175
djurchicprelude is on a distinguished road
aight guys thanks for all the help!! What I ended doing was borrowing my friends dekstop pc with SATA and used his power supply and cd drive... poped in the windows cd and everything worked out great.

Thanks again for the help!
djurchicprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My hard drive situation PhatHam Newbie 3 10-26-2006 01:50 PM
MB870 & Slimline Floppy Drives McGreggor General Hardware Discussion 5 11-09-2005 07:32 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright © 1999 - 2008 Mp3Car.com Inc.Ad Management by RedTyger
Message Board Statistics