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Old 08-01-2004, 12:58 AM   #16
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u'r right, i just checked using a cronos:

15 secs from button press to mobo logo
25 secs for Mobo boot
10 secs for de-hybernate (stop at password login)

as u see the de-hybernate process it's trascurable

i forget:
HDD 2.5 fujitsu 5400 rpm directly on 44 pin channel

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Old 08-02-2004, 04:54 PM   #17
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i think i'm going to look into this.. there is a complete c library for menuet

http://menuetlibc.sourceforge.net/
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Old 08-03-2004, 12:09 AM   #18
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i think i'm going to look into this.. there is a complete c library for menuet

http://menuetlibc.sourceforge.net/

See I knew if someone just checked into it, good things would turn up.
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Ok.... imagine reverse engeneering DIVX, and writing it in asm.... that's what you'd have to do to make people switch over.
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screw windows xp. Think about it, we could have like a complete car OS if someone could get on this and write something awesome. This thing is open source (gnu gpl I think) and everything... try getting that from micro$oft. someone who is awesome you would think could twist this os and turn it into something... Just a thought I guess.

It makes me sick when people with zero coding experience regard excellent software as a naturally occurring phenomenon. You have no idea how much work is involved with even the smallest project. Coding in assembly is like maintaining a golf course with a pair of scissors. The very existence of the vast majority of useful freeware is due to Windows' hardware and software abstraction layers; before that everyone had to understand how to compile and tweak code to even attempt to use it-- and even then it only worked on one particular type of hardware. The level of usability and functionality of software is directly proportional to the resources applied to the its development, therefore free software can never be as useful and productive as software that is sold for profit. Exceptions are anomalous and temporary. But that's not even what really bothers me. There's something patently solipsistic in looking at this software and thinking "Damn, this is so much better than what actually works well, even though it doesn't actually work at all."
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Quote: Originally Posted by eatyummypuppies
...something patently solipsistic...

Sopl...
soplit...

sopltcsits....

....HUH?!?!?!?!?! Where the HELL did THAT word come from?!?!
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The theory that the self is the only thing that can be known and verified.
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It makes me sick when people with zero coding experience regard excellent software as a naturally occurring phenomenon. You have no idea how much work is involved with even the smallest project.

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:52 AM   #24
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hibernate restore on my dell laptop with 512mb RAM is under 2 seconds - there must be something clever going on to pull it all back into main memory - or maybe it powers just the RAM in standby styli
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Maybe i'm wrong but i know two different types of Hibernation:
Suspend to ram
Suspend to disk

In the first on datas are mantained inside the ram, and the power supply will give power only to ram and external usb. Resume is about 3 sec.
In the second one datas are saved from ram to the hd. The power supply cut power from every device. Resume take about 10/15 sec.
I use the first (S3) in my car. Power need is very low (i can leave my car in hibernate state for 10/15 days without problems to the battery).This is also useful because giveing power to the usb, my gps remain locked to satelites without delays on start.
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Isn't suspend to ram called standby?
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Isn't suspend to ram called standby?

Yep, but my laptop bios settings have an option if i use laptops own hibernate function to save it to ram and example if battery is low then it copy it to harddisk and is like normal hibernate but if there is power the hibernate works like suspend to ram. Quite cool if i say so...
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My Compaq laptop is the same way
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My Compaq laptop is the same way

Mine's not
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Quote: Originally Posted by eatyummypuppies
free software can never be as useful and productive as software that is sold for profit. Exceptions are anomalous and temporary.

funny, my linux machine doesn't FEEL anomalous and temporary...
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