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Old 04-15-2008, 06:31 PM   #421
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ok, might as well go off topic while we wait for Chuck to chime in...

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Old 04-15-2008, 06:43 PM   #422
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ok, might as well go off topic while we wait for Chuck to chime in...

Nice - hard to beat JWT twins. I've got the 700bb set up myself. The DashDaq is a serious consideration for me because even though the carPC "could" do it all, it just is not 100% always on, like I need gauges to be on right away, all the time. It can read from the Haltech CAN channel soon and already reads from innovate sensors/gauges.

Are you coming to ZdayZ Caelric - or are you too far away?

I've got plenty of other gauges, don't need the DashDaq, but you are right, it is nice!

ZdayZ is where?

And as for a topic here, that ended a while ago...
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:54 PM   #423
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:55 PM   #424
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All we are trying to do is get support! No one is buying out SD. Its simple software... When a giant like Mic.Soft or Google or Intel buy a company its because 1 of 2 reasons: 1) the company has a patent or know-how in the area OR 2) if a company is easier to acquire than to compete with. SD is neither and Microsoft guru's could probably copy it within a week. Even if im wrong and they are under NDA, were not asking to reveal their HUGE plans, just work out your bugs first! I have a very warm and fuzzy feeling about you being here and caring but that doesn't make my volume work or play DVD's in vista! All im asking for is someone to post something like "were on it, it will be in the next update in two weeks" that will make me shut up!
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:55 PM   #425
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This whole thing does not seem right to me. Ok SD would have the NDA with whoever. MP3Car is the Distributor/reseller so the NDA should not apply unless they are directly involved. SD would be quiet about it but MP3Car should be speculating as well. No matter what, they should be able to give you a few words and be general about it.

At the very least you should get "Guys I know we are being tight lipped but I can tell you its good news" THE END. or "Guys we are having a few bumps and are working on fixes" THE END.

I really feel for you guys. I dont get it, does not MP3Car realize if this is the type of customer backing they give, this will hurt future business in all sectors down the road?

Seriously after reading the 25+ pages a person looking at next upgrades in monitors, mobos, GPS etc. would have diminished trust that MP3Car would have the customers back and help against manufacturers screw ups. This is the worst customer service ever on both SD and MP3Car's side. This is not the confident name branding you would expect any business to strive for.

Being an outsider, I am reading... (I am guessing/speculating due to the lack of information) MP3Car is in financial trouble, or SD is going Bankrupt, Red left because they cant pay her or she wants out before the boat sinks. Or. SD is going to make a million dollars a day long with MP3Car because Intel or Microsoft or both just purchased SD and Red is looking for another great challenge. All guesses and probably waaaay off but your mind cant help think of these things.

You have paid for something that is not working as promised, with no communication. No real apologies and compensation ...nothing. UNREAL.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:32 AM   #426
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Just for the record (and not that anyone cares), I tried out Road Runner that someone else touted so much. It maybe has a couple more features I would love, but the interface sucks compared to SD. I do like that it uses winamp and iGuidance, but not enough to deal with poor button layout and menu structure.


Come ON SD dev.... DOn't fail us.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:40 AM   #427
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Just for the record (and not that anyone cares), I tried out Road Runner that someone else touted so much. It maybe has a couple more features I would love, but the interface sucks compared to SD. I do like that it uses winamp and iGuidance, but not enough to deal with poor button layout and menu structure.


Come ON SD dev.... DOn't fail us.


Actually, I care. I always liked RR and for a long time, I used it as a "backup" to SD as I love their weather interface. However, like you say, 10K buttons per page really doesn't cut it. Not sure why they (and everyone else) don't go with "command on demand". Why would anyone need their ff,rew,play/pause,etc. on the screen at all times? Does their music collection really suck so bad that even they don't like it? lol

Please Note: Just because I care does not mean I want to go through a 10 page debate on SD vs. RR.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:38 AM   #428
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Quote: Originally Posted by TinSoldier View Post
Just for the record (and not that anyone cares), I tried out Road Runner that someone else touted so much. It maybe has a couple more features I would love, but the interface sucks compared to SD. I do like that it uses winamp and iGuidance, but not enough to deal with poor button layout and menu structure.

Come ON SD dev.... DOn't fail us.

As far interface and button layout in RR it's dependent on the skins (I'd recommend LSX Void) some skins being a lot busier than others. On the topic of SD dev, the damage has already been done with their lack of response.

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Actually, I care. I always liked RR and for a long time, I used it as a "backup" to SD as I love their weather interface. However, like you say, 10K buttons per page really doesn't cut it. Not sure why they (and everyone else) don't go with "command on demand". Why would anyone need their ff,rew,play/pause,etc. on the screen at all times? Does their music collection really suck so bad that even they don't like it? lol

Please Note: Just because I care does not mean I want to go through a 10 page debate on SD vs. RR.

As I already mentioned interface and button layout in RR are dependent on the skin, some skin being busier than others.

FF, rew,play/pause, etc auto hiding was actually a feature I really dislike in SD (other post also echo this sentiment) always felt it should have been an option if you wanted to use autohide or not.

I've used SD for over a year once the newness of SD and your CarPC install wear-off and the mundaneness of every day use set-in the flaws in SD will really begin to shine. Particularly music and navigation which IMO are the two major uses of SD. The manner in which music is added in StreetDeck leaves a LOT to be desired especially if you have a large music collection. Concerning navigation with Mappoint it's very pretty with satellite imagery overlaid on maps but horrid on its turn by turn direction not to mention glitchy (it was a poor choice as a nav engine).

I also don't want to start a debate on which front-end is better CF, SD, RR, they all have there collective strong and weak points. What the other two major front-ends have that SD doesn't is that they have been actively supported by developers that have NEVER abonded their audience.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:49 AM   #429
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What the other two major front-ends have that SD doesn't is that they have been actively supported by developers that have NEVER abonded their audience.

Alright now......let's not go there again. lol
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:57 AM   #430
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:54 PM   #432
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That is disgusting.

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Dude... it was hot and that outfit was... well really comfortable.
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OK.
I'm going to chime in here. I've been conspicuously quiet about the SD gripes in this thread, as well as others because I'm in a rather unique position.
It's time to speak my piece:

I'm as frustrated by the lack of information as the rest of you.
AS A STREETDECK USER, I'm horrified by the lack of support for the product in the past several months. I have issues and questions that I would like resolutions or answers to.

I have Chuck on my IM list and have not seen him online at all in months.
I like to believe that he is holed up in the SD office pounding out code for SDv2 or possibly working on other projects that will find their way into SD somehow.
Considering the length of time Chuck has been incommunicado, this scenario is becoming harder and harder to believe.

Again, AS A STREETDECK USER, and at the risk of losing my position as a moderator on the forums, I'm appalled by the lack of information being provided to the user base, particularly when it has been requested repeatedly. There is no other way to describe it other than craptastic customer service.
Even worse is the announcement that there will be an announcement, then no followup. I have been waiting patiently, just like the rest of you for any shred of information or communication, only to be disappointed each passing day.

I have personally emailed Fiberoptic to alert him to the concerns of you all, specifically linking him to this thread, as well as others where users are upset at the poor customer service and, more significantly, the lack of communication. I received a similar response, that there would be an announcement made on the forums in short order.

AS A MODERATOR, I have to say that the complaints in this thread are known to the powers that be. I made certain that they are aware of the user complaints. I don't know if it's my role as moderator to make sure your voices are heard or not. If it's not my role, then I overstepped my boundaries.
Perhaps my role as moderator and my role 1as a SD user are crossing over into one another.

Oh well.

I have also offered my serives to StreetDeck as a support person on a part time basis, if nothing else to help alleviate the frustration of the user base, both via email and on the forums. I think I know enough about the systems y'all run and SD itself to be able to troubleshoot common stuff. I also have enough of a background in bug tracking and troubleshooting to be able to insure real software issues are addressed.

I'm sure it will come as no surprise to anyone that my response was...
NOTHING.


At this point, I really don't give a rat's fat happy patootie about what happens to me as a moderator, StreetDeck or anything else. While my intent is not to walk away from the forums or anything of that sort, I am completely washing my hands of StreetDeck.
If this were legacy software that wasn't being developed any further, I could possibly understand the lack of anything from the dev team. However, this is supposedly an actively developed piece of software.
How active? I don't know.
But at this point I question exactly how much development there is.

For me, it's time to start reading the RR FAQs.
I've got some catching up to do.
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