danielkh

CF is great, so is Jesus. I don't go to a streetdeck forum to look for either. If I want a new front end, I'll go looking for it.

Edit: PS. I think RR DFX 3.0 is fantastic! But I (TRY TO) go to the RR forum to talk about it.

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sciontC

LOL I wish I could fix your software, but I wouldnt even know where to start and that is why I bought a purchased software. I need something all automatic and in one package. I cant stand software issues, they BUG me, lol.

Daniel, OT: what branch? My brother is in the Army and currently waiting to be accepted into Ranger school. He wants to be a scout, pretty cool but crazy if ya ask me, lol

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Ouch, scouts ....well, I went to the same school as the scouts (Ft. Knox). I was a Tank Commander with Texas and California Army National Guards. Shattered an elbow in '89 and that pretty much ended everything.

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sciontC

Ouch back at ya!

Yeah his current MOS is crane op but he keeps getting tossed around so he just going active and apparantly all the way. when he was in iraq he left on leave to come home for my wedding and the next day his battle buddy who replaced his spot in the humV had his face blown off, so I think my brother has been looking for a way to "get back" so to speak. I dunno, I kinda hopes he doesnt make it though the school but want him to be happy as well. so A N Y W A Y..............

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I think I would want to "get even" with heavy armor and lots of ammunition between me and them. Scouts have the Bradley though.

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CdRsKuLL

I agree with a lot of what people are saying in that you purchased a product with the expectation that updates would be provided. This sadly hasn’t been the case as yet and as mp3car are the sole provider of this software have a responsibility to you the customer. Sadly things haven’t it seems gone to plan and for whatever reason these updates aren’t coming as they should do. This leaves mp3car in a position which they are trying to resolve. Any information posted by them may affect any action which they may or may not be taking. Please just bare with them a little longer, as they have said things have been noted and they are trying to something about it.
Also please be aware that the moderators on this forum are not employed by mp3car and have been given there 'moderators' job out of love and dedication to their hobby and this forum. Please refrain from bashing them and having them work hard to moderate all these posts, it isn’t a fun time for them either and the last thing you want if for them to throw in the towel !..

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Thanks for the kind words CdR. As mods, we do our best.

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Fair dos



Problem is guys that I dont think its mods this is been aimed at its the people who own / run SD & Mp3car.....

I do think more could have been said by FO because the way its looking at the mo there could be other problems on the horison for Mp3car as a whole and while I have never done this my self IF I was to buy some thing from them I would think twice at the mo..... I mean - will the comercial arm be about in 12 months to cover Gurantees ? May be but with the recent leavers and projects / support been pulled you can read so many things in to that.

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DarquePervert

I agree.
However, a lot of people have blurred the distinction between mp3ccar.com & StreetDeck. A large part of that blurred distinction is the fact that ownership and contact info for both lead back to the offices in Reisertown, MD.

As moderators of the mp3car.com forums, we take some heat for being associated and are expected to assist and defend and so on.
Well, that's certainly not the case, as has been pointed out.

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what ever happened to streetdeckace?

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The only people that have really been bashing the Mods have been new guys yelling their post was "denied" (even though they were only slowed). The rest of us understand how it works. They're doing a good job I think.

Now......streetdeck.....

When this whole thread started, someone mispoke by stating something about ownership (creating 500+ responses). A very impressive display of the importance of "gag orders" in NDA's. Who would have thought that a simple innocent statement of ownership, could create all of the speculation it did? How many times has the truth been "nailed" in this thread just by that speculation?

IF, Mp3car has signed all rights to Streetdeck over to another party, which really seems the case, then their "responsibilities" are now null and void and they shift to the new "control". That's why when Chuck decided to go AWOL, it appeared to me that he was taking the money and running, which in turn, ****sed me off. For them to stay means they did retain some responsibility to the product, probably(I hope), by their own demands in negotiations.

The longer this "statement" takes, the bigger the announcement will be. Why? Simple contracts take a short time to work out, and announcements come very quickly. The more parties involved, or the more detailed the agreement, the longer it takes. Simple business. How long has XM and Sirius been talking about merging? Why do I think it's a major company? Because FO thought it would only take a week and was dead wrong. Meaning the agreement and disclosures were "out of his league". Or he was just full of crap and leading us on. I believe the first is true, because major players wouldn't deal with the second, no matter how good the product.

Now, lets go the other way. I'm full of hooey.........

The fact of the matter is Mp3car DID create streetdeck. It says so (or at least it did) right on the front page of streetdeck.com. They are both controlled and managed by the same people. By ignoring Streetdeck, they are in fact, in breech of contract (it stated when I bought it free support, and I would swear that when I bought it, it said eligible for one free major upgrade). That means, by not giving support they are opening the door to legal action from every Streetdeck owner out there. They are also putting mp3car in danger in doing so.

Which scenario makes more sense? Would you let your company go down the tubes if you were the one pulling the strings?

edit: I also believe it is pure hell for both of them to have to watch all this go on. That's why I like them to do it. Serves them right for signing an agreement that punishes us.

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Caelric

DP, I can only speak for myself, but I can see what I see on the forums. Most people do not confuse the moderators for official staff of either MP3Car, or SD, or at least most people who have any experience with internet based forums, that is. They realize that moderators (on most forums) are just members of that forum who have demonstrated responsibility, and have volunteered to help "moderate" those forums, and are most likely not paid anything, other than slightly increased forum priveleges.

However, the distinction between SD and MP3Car.com is, as you mentioned, very blurry. In fact, I would hazard to say that to most members of this forum, it is completely non-existent. That is, SD, and MP3Car are the same exact entity, at least in the eyes of most forum members. This is for many reasons, including the ones you mentioned above, with the ownership and contact info leading to MD. In addition, the Streetdeck.com pages interchangeably list various persons in the MP3car.com as part of the SD team, the forums on MP3car.com are listed as the primary support page, MP3car.com is the sole distributor of SD (as far as I'm aware), and various other things all point to SD and MP3Car as so interrelated as to be no real distinction between the two.

I'm sure you are aware of this, but it does need repeating for some folks. For anyone not intimately involved in the corporate structure and dealings of SD and MP3Car, there is no distinction whatsoever between the two.

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Autockr989

Yea! Well read this!!!

Which has nothing to do with continuing to offer support on the existing product the way it is. I don't give a flying f**k about you not telling me what the current situation of SD is because i'll assume it is going to be good news considering the existing functions work , but to not assist my technical issues, especially when I purchased hardware from MP3car (my xm crap) and still have not been able to get it to work, with no interaction from you or anyone employed by SD or mp3car is just nonsense. To leave a customer hanging only to rely on fellow users of SD for help especially when this is not open-source. I find it even more BS that you have the audacity to say we are reading your posts, but have no intension in assisting with problems such as mine. I've been posting my issues all over this forum, trying to resolve it, but it all comes down to me waiting for one SD user to get back from a business trip who has the same problem to help. Simply put, BAD BUSINESS!

danielkh

Like I said, it's got to be pure hell!!
I love it.........

Edit: I agree with you, but, if control is being changed, the current status of Streetdeck cannot be changed in any way shape or form.......but I do agree with the sentiment.

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Autockr989

That's the point though. I'm not looking for them to tell me what the future holds for SD, because its obvious, their not closing up shop, but to stop supporting the existing state of the product has no revelvance to the situation, unless they are in some sort of lawsuit, which i doubt because they wouldn't be posting anything on the forum, not even the worthless statements we see every two weeks.

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