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12-21-2007, 09:22 AM
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#196
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 614
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ok ive got a question im hoping someone can answer for me before i jump on this purchase. i am using the kxproject drivers for my audigy sound card which use their own mixer as opposed to windows' mixer. what this means is that in RR (which interfaced with the windows mixer), i only have access to master, wave, and winamp volumes. i have no access to mic or line in volumes, nor do i have the ability to mute them from inside RR. so basically, in my case, those inputs would have to remain always on, and i would have to have some way of actually turning the radio transmission itself on/off instead of muting/unmuting its input. does the interface we are using support this, or does it only support muting and unmuting the radio? in other words, when you visit the radio screen, is it actually turning on the radio, or is the radio already on and we're just unmuting its input. please help! thanks.
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12-21-2007, 09:27 AM
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#197
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Top o' the world Ma!
Vehicle: 2004 Chrysler 300M Special
Posts: 1,245
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Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
ok ive got a question im hoping someone can answer for me before i jump on this purchase. i am using the kxproject drivers for my audigy sound card which use their own mixer as opposed to windows' mixer. what this means is that in RR (which interfaced with the windows mixer), i only have access to master, wave, and winamp volumes. i have no access to mic or line in volumes, nor do i have the ability to mute them from inside RR. so basically, in my case, those inputs would have to remain always on, and i would have to have some way of actually turning the radio transmission itself on/off instead of muting/unmuting its input. does the interface we are using support this, or does it only support muting and unmuting the radio? in other words, when you visit the radio screen, is it actually turning on the radio, or is the radio already on and we're just unmuting its input. please help! thanks.
Short answer:
Yup.
Running and audigy 4 with the KX drivers. No issues. All skin controlled. Just rememeberto unmute your "line in" in the KX control panel.
Don't ask me how I know.......... 
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Last edited by greatwhite : 12-21-2007 at 09:41 AM.
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12-21-2007, 06:36 PM
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#198
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 614
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yep, i am using the audigy zs that has slightly less functionality with the kx drivers than other cards, so i basically will have to leave it unmuted all the time unless i wanna open up the kx panel and do it each time i want to listen to radio which would be a PITA.
just to doubly make sure, you do *not* have control of muting/unmiting your line in through the windows mixer or in RR, correct? the radio is actually turning off when not used? if not, ill be outta luck, lol.
btw what model are u using?
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12-21-2007, 07:32 PM
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#199
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FLAC
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sun Diego
Vehicle: 2001 A4 1.8TQMS
Posts: 917
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Can someone please explain HD subchannels? Poking around, I'm not quite sure what they are and what they do and how they relate to the labels and stuff...
I'm talking about subchannel2 and subchannel count, etc...
TIA!
Last edited by Sal R. : 12-21-2007 at 07:39 PM.
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12-21-2007, 09:48 PM
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#200
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 795
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someone on ebay is got a ton of the visteon tuners
under $50, with < $10 ship
tons
mitch
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12-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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#201
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FLAC
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Allis, WI
Vehicle: 1986 Jaguar XJS
Posts: 917
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That is an outstanding price. Considering I bought a visteon online a couple of weeks ago for $120.00 and thought I got a good deal. Damn, and I still dont have it installed either. Guess I should have waited a while.
OH well.... MERRY CHRISTMAS
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12-21-2007, 10:40 PM
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#202
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FLAC
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Allis, WI
Vehicle: 1986 Jaguar XJS
Posts: 917
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman_jkh 
Mitch> Does your plugin keep the radio on when its not on the radio screen?
Or does the Radio turn on when the radio screen loads and off when the screen is changed to something else (eg:AUDIO or VIDEO)?
I ask because I'm interested in tapping into the relay that turns on/off inside the unit (depending on if you press the power button on/off) and using that to control my power antenna.
Cheers
Ice
What it does is once you load your radio screen, the radio is turned on. The radio stays on until your either enter your music screen or video screen.
The the radio turns off and the Music or Video will start.
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12-21-2007, 10:45 PM
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#203
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: upland california us
Vehicle: 1981 chevy el camino
Posts: 778
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all i want to say to all of you that have HDRadio is, i'm soooo jealous, hope to join this club soon, Enjoy guys.
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12-21-2007, 11:17 PM
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#204
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 614
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does anyone feel like posting a video of the radio in action? i never quite got my silabs working reliably, tuning was always slow and unreliable, and the presets didnt hold. does this one work well in terms of tuning and changing stations? in other words, does it operate like a normal radio should, or does it operate like a radio going through windows, lol.
edit: also for those of you who have it installed, do you think its a better idea to leave the radio near the pc and amp in the trunk and extend the antenna cable, or is it better to keep the antenna cable short and extend the usb and rca cables? what will pick up more noise on the way?
Last edited by hari-bhari : 12-21-2007 at 11:21 PM.
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12-22-2007, 06:42 AM
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#205
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Top o' the world Ma!
Vehicle: 2004 Chrysler 300M Special
Posts: 1,245
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sal R. 
Can someone please explain HD subchannels? Poking around, I'm not quite sure what they are and what they do and how they relate to the labels and stuff...
I'm talking about subchannel2 and subchannel count, etc...
TIA!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/e...s-digital-306/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...6014035AAiC1iv
and that's just from the first page on google-ing "hd radio subchannels"....................
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12-22-2007, 06:48 AM
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#206
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Top o' the world Ma!
Vehicle: 2004 Chrysler 300M Special
Posts: 1,245
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Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
does anyone feel like posting a video of the radio in action?
nope
Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
i never quite got my silabs working reliably, tuning was always slow and unreliable, and the presets didnt hold. does this one work well in terms of tuning and changing stations?
yup
Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
in other words, does it operate like a normal radio should, or does it operate like a radio going through windows, lol.
well, it is a radio going through windows..................slow to turn on and of compared to a dedicated unit, but otherwise fine.
Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
edit: also for those of you who have it installed, do you think its a better idea to leave the radio near the pc and amp in the trunk and extend the antenna cable,
Don't know yet, still working on it
Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
or is it better to keep the antenna cable short and extend the usb and rca cables?
There is no usb cable, only rca's and serial. But either way, you end up extending signal cables which is a crap shoot. Careful routing of the cables is probably the most important aspect of the install (ie; away from interference producing electronics and cables)
Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
what will pick up more noise on the way?
:dunno:, see still working on it comment............
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12-22-2007, 08:15 AM
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#207
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FLAC
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Allis, WI
Vehicle: 1986 Jaguar XJS
Posts: 917
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Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
does anyone feel like posting a video of the radio in action? ...
BLAH BLAH BLAH ...
or is it better to keep the antenna cable short and extend the usb and rca cables? what will pick up more noise on the way?
VIDEO OF MY SKIN WITH HD RADIO IN ACTION
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12-22-2007, 09:40 AM
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#208
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Vehicle: 06 Chyrsler 300C AWD Hemi
Posts: 339
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Quote: Originally Posted by mitchjs 
Hey guys, just want to let anyone know who ordered my cable with in the last week
I did run out, but good news, more are here this week
i should have em out the door by thursday (12/20)
Support was way more then i expected, i had NO idea how popular this would be
thanks all again!
mitch
Now do you believe me? when i started the HD radio project i knew this would take off.. Oh by the way i bought your cable also  Works alot better than my I bus conversion we had last year
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12-22-2007, 12:29 PM
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#209
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Top o' the world Ma!
Vehicle: 2004 Chrysler 300M Special
Posts: 1,245
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Well, I'm having an issue with reception.
Didn't show up until I mounted it in the car (to be fair, it may have been there all along as I didn't have it hooked up to an antenna on the bench, same stations came in weak on the bench as they do in the car).
I have the visteon unit running into an audigy 4 pci sound card running kxproject drivers.
The sound is very low and the reception is very poor.
I've gone through the kx drivers and unmuted/max volumed the line in. I've also checked every other setting in the driver I can think of.
No, it's not set on "local". Tried switching back and forth.
I went out and bought a standard automotive mast antenna and plugged that in with no improvement as my car is an "in glass" antenna (never got it hooked up anyways, needs an adapter).
It's almost like there's no antenna at all..........reception is abysimal...........if anything comes in at all.............
I've used both RR and Mitch's software to control the unit, but it gets the same result.
The unit is mounted solidly in the trunk to the metal through the included "feet", away from electronics (well no closer than a foot or so) and I've tried moving the antenna around as far as it's 50" cable will allow (used alligator clipped wires to maintain a ground on the antenna case and car body).
I only get analog radio where I am, but there are several strong stations on a regular tuner. My factory unit used to get stations from really far away (150-200 km's), but the visteon can't even get a decent signal from 40 km away.
I'm going to try mitch's stand alone software on the laptop in a while just to make sure it's not an "M"puter (carputer) problem.
I haven't tried the RCA mod (I'll try the jumper first) but that only has to do with sound quality (not reception) as I understand it.
What am I missing here?
It's gotta be something simple that i am just not seeing.
Bummed..........................
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Last edited by greatwhite : 12-22-2007 at 01:05 PM.
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12-22-2007, 12:57 PM
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#210
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FLAC
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Motorcity
Vehicle: '06 Triple Black Mustang
Posts: 1,520
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Make sure you are plugged into the ANT IN port on the unit.
Make sure (if you are bench testing) that your auto mast antenna is properly grounded or it will not work.
While bench testing I used a single stranded piece of wire and a lot of channels would not come in correctly in the house, some would tune, but not kick to HD. I plugged the unit into my OEM mast antenna directly (no antenna extensions) and it works amazing. No static, no noise just pure clear HD radio and it switches to HD in under a second.
I am going to guess your problems are directly related to the antenna not the visteon tuner.
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