The MP3car.com Store The MP3car.com Store    

Sponsored links

Go Back   MP3Car.com > Mp3Car Technical > General Hardware Discussion > User Innovations

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-11-2007, 12:09 PM   #1
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
Diy 400w Psu

hmm I am trying to develop some one! It's will be fully isolated no need GLI......no engine noise ........ and I am think to take power for hubs and screen from this device ......
Is this a good idea or I am really crazy ?

News:
1.Ok! I have developed it
2. 400w Pilot PSU beta-testing units only for preordering, price is 180$
3. 200W Light version, non isolated, high protected is in development stage. I tryed to do this - but it's not a good construction, but :
4. 07.21.2007 I have made redesign of 400w psu - smaller price and changes of internal components interaction and schematic. new pics and user guide will be soon.

5. 11.09.2007 ok! here is pic of version 3.1
Attachment 46152
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !

Last edited by MibMib; 11-09-2007 at 11:32 AM.
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Sponsored links

Old 03-11-2007, 12:19 PM   #2
Raw Wave
 
Rob Withey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 2,070
I think it is a great idea. Even better if you can deliver unlike so many that have posted the same idea and failed in the past.
__________________
6yr old first install died 20/8/2005 as result of bad bios flash.

New system : 6x5x2" contains 1GHz C3 PCM9373, ISR based PSU, 8Gb flash DOM, 98Lite, DirectShow based frontend.
GPS : Rikaline 6010.
Display : LTM08C351 + LVDS receiver.
Rob Withey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 01:22 PM   #3
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
I tried to use a search , but found nothing . Please help me to find some threads about this idea.
Rob Withey And why that peoples was failed in the past.... which reasons?

Thanks
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 01:35 PM   #4
Raw Wave
 
Rob Withey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 2,070
I have no idea why previous attempts have failed. What usually happens is that someone says they are going to design a power supply to beat all power supplies, we get several pages of schematics, sometimes photos of prototypes, and then the original poster abandons the thread and/or disappears off the face of the earth.
Much respect to you if you manage to pull this off.
__________________
6yr old first install died 20/8/2005 as result of bad bios flash.

New system : 6x5x2" contains 1GHz C3 PCM9373, ISR based PSU, 8Gb flash DOM, 98Lite, DirectShow based frontend.
GPS : Rikaline 6010.
Display : LTM08C351 + LVDS receiver.
Rob Withey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 01:48 PM   #5
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
I'm so crazy %) and i'll try to make this............... but i dont know will this device work or not
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !

Last edited by MibMib; 03-11-2007 at 01:50 PM.
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 02:05 PM   #6
Constant Bitrate
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 154
Quote: Originally Posted by Rob Withey View Post
What usually happens is that someone says they are going to design a power supply to beat all power supplies, we get several pages of schematics, sometimes photos of prototypes, and then the original poster abandons the thread and/or disappears off the face of the earth.

they guys at opus and minibox must have their own hit squads!

DavC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 02:12 PM   #7
Raw Wave
 
Rob Withey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 2,070
150w - thread died : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/power-supplies/49358-small-size-150w-7-18v-shut-down-controller.html
300w - thread died : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/power-supplies/56947-300w-tiny-psu-final-feature-requests-collecting.html
Thread died : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/power-supplies/8115-new-small-dc-dc-atx-power-supply.html
Thread died : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/power-supplies/9897-atx-dc-dc-big-cahoona-power-supply-plans.html
etc, etc...

You get the picture.

Best bet might be Sproggy/Mastero derived design.
__________________
6yr old first install died 20/8/2005 as result of bad bios flash.

New system : 6x5x2" contains 1GHz C3 PCM9373, ISR based PSU, 8Gb flash DOM, 98Lite, DirectShow based frontend.
GPS : Rikaline 6010.
Display : LTM08C351 + LVDS receiver.
Rob Withey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2007, 02:36 PM   #8
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
Rob Withey
wow great thanks to you!
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2007, 10:22 AM   #9
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
Wow i build it ! ...... But need some tests! Today i find some bugs in it and i'll fix it later, and later i'll post pics and specifications. This PSU WILL NOT SUPPORT stand by mode, because i read many threads about dryed batteries. Then i made PSU which in off-state don't takes any current- NO any MICROAMPS - i think it's great. I think hibernate - is very good choice, and it's work fine.
What about controller ?
Here is a simplest controller - 5 seconds before startup , and 15 seconds before shutdown, it monitors voltage of battery, and have a rem output to control amp or lcd - it takes hi state after 0.5 sec of carputer on , and low state before carputer shutdown. When it shutdowning, it waits 40 sec , if windows isn't shutdown- controller shutdown all system hardly.

This psu fully isolated - no more buzzing or interferrence No need ground loop isolator.
You can( to avoid ground loops - must) powers from it usb devices and lcd monitor.
Ok today i tested it on this hardware at home

proc. Celeron D 2133MHz (overclocked about 3200)
mb. asus p4s800
video geforce 2 mx400
mem. don't know manufacturer - 256M
HD. WD 80gb
cd- samsung 52x
dvd liteon combo drive
modem conexant56 soft internal

so it's work great

hmmm........
i think i'll really finish this project
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !

Last edited by MibMib; 04-09-2007 at 10:29 AM.
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2007, 01:00 PM   #10
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 47
how about a circuit diagram or something??
i'm assuming you mean you power this off 12v-13.8v power supply??
this isn's inverting the power to 244 is it?

Last edited by 96CalibraYE; 04-09-2007 at 01:02 PM.
96CalibraYE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2007, 02:08 PM   #11
MySQL Error
 
MatrixPC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Beach City, Socal
Posts: 4,033
I'm very interest to see what you have done. An imaging thing is you have it done within a month.
__________________
2004 Matrix XR A7N8X-VM/400 AMD XP-M 2500+, DS-ATX
89 Supra Turbo P3 600E@750/Abit BE6 II, Alpine M-BUS Car2PC.
Y2K Accord Dell GX150
RoadRunner is the best FE PERIOD
EmoRebellion is a SCAMMER
MatrixPC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2007, 03:16 PM   #12
Constant Bitrate
 
almera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 119
I would like to see the result indeed! Any schematics, data, images?
almera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 08:38 AM   #13
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
96CalibraYE
yes you right!
it works 8-16 Volts at input.
MatrixPC
almera

So, - i build and develop not for one month , but since february of 2006.
this thread created about 1 month ago I just want to know is somebody build a psu more than 300W or no - thanks to all . And i really saw some projects, but threads die (upper links) ........ but this is very nice projects.


I think it's will be commercial project , because it's very difficult to build it by yourself - optocoupler based feedback , 3 transformers , 3 pwms , logic ...... - all this need be tuned. To tune it - needs osciloscope, multimeter , frequencymeter and FREQUENCY RESPONSE ANALYZER( to stabilize feedback loops, this device costs very very high! - look at http://ridleyengineering.com/analyzer.htm -one of this devices .... and look at price ) ........
so .......
I think pics will be at next week or eralier

And i saw on one russian forum http://forum.mp3car.ru/ and you can find some free version of 200w psu ( not mine development) - there are no any over/under current/voltage protections( so it's dangerous) and controller , but it's work, if i'll find that thread - i'll give you some links
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !

Last edited by MibMib; 04-11-2007 at 09:03 AM.
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 02:38 PM   #14
Low Bitrate
 
MibMib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: KyrGyzstan
Posts: 93
ok - found some schematic, don't know author.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5582/compcar2dw2.gif
200W
3.3 v,12v not stabilized , like in cheap psu - for not powerfull system is a good choice i think. But not pointed parameters of transformer but you can calculate this with some free special programs

p.s. oh - I found some mistake - C9 needs to change polarity
__________________
400Watt CarPC power supply for powerfull systems- thaks for Beta testers- it was perfect.

Remember - AMD Athlon XP (socket A) powers from 5v rail in most times !

Last edited by MibMib; 04-11-2007 at 02:43 PM.
MibMib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 07:20 PM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 9
You must be pretty smart and have electronics training. I was going to modify the input of a AT power supply back in the stone ages when this forum was new, but I wasn't comfortable rewinding all the high voltage transformers. Since then I've been attending business school and I'm about to graduate. I'd like to make an ATX power supply but I don't have the proper tools which you talk about. I'd have to study how they have the hibernate and the pushbutton switch work (the smarts of the new PSU).
nicksmurf111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FAQ: Power Supplies Explained (Part 1) Bugbyte The FAQ Emporium 14 06-10-2007 07:45 AM
Frequently Asked Questions bgoodman The FAQ Emporium 33 05-03-2005 06:25 PM
400w inverter 330w psu Carter Power Supplies 6 10-05-2004 11:07 PM
What to look for in a PSU some info for you cproaudio Power Supplies 9 04-04-2003 01:07 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 1999 - 2008 Mp3Car.com Inc.Ad Management by RedTyger
Message Board Statistics