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12-06-2004, 03:51 AM
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My Village Called
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Vehicle: 1995 Lexus SC300 1997 Mazda Miata
Posts: 10,763
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Quote: Originally Posted by SWC
So is there a way to force quit apps with minlogin?
Have a program that uses systemhook to alt+ctrl+del that brings up a task manager. Search for alternative task managers.. they should work. |
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12-06-2004, 04:09 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dunedin - New Zealand
Vehicle: '95 BMW 325i Coupe
Posts: 421
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Well i got my system back to using explorer for the shell.
I still had network access to the drive, so i copied explorer.exe to the centrafuse folder and renamed the files then rebooted. It worked like a charm.
also did a little research and i can't find anyway of enabling CTRL+ALT+DEL with minlogon.
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12-06-2004, 07:51 AM
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2004
Vehicle: 2006 Impreza WRX Limited
Posts: 1,142
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What errors were you getting when you changed the shell??
*EDIT*: Also, what registry key did you change for the shell. I seem to remember that minlogon handled things differently maybe... Not sure about that one, I'll have to reread the MSDN docs.
Last edited by SFiorito : 12-06-2004 at 08:15 AM.
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12-06-2004, 08:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Czech rep.
Vehicle: Renault Laguna II
Posts: 655
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Quote: Originally Posted by SFiorito
What errors were you getting when you changed the shell??
I am interested as well. Maybe they can be corrected easily. |
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12-06-2004, 08:44 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dunedin - New Zealand
Vehicle: '95 BMW 325i Coupe
Posts: 421
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Quote: Originally Posted by SFiorito
What errors were you getting when you changed the shell??
*EDIT*: Also, what registry key did you change for the shell. I seem to remember that minlogon handled things differently maybe... Not sure about that one, I'll have to reread the MSDN docs.
I just changed the 'Shell' entry under [HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS NT\WINLOGON]
from 'Explorer.exe' to 'C:\Program Files\...\centrafuse.exe'
Yeah, i didn't write down the errors, which was stupid. I will change the shell again and take down the errors and pass them to the creator of centrafuse.
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12-07-2004, 02:52 AM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 131
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One thing that's a bit unclear for me.. Is this method using XP emb. or an ordinary XP? (Nlited).. If it's NOT XP emb., where can we download minLogon?
EDIT: Nevermind.. I found it.. Thanks SWC!
Last edited by FetLyd : 12-07-2004 at 02:57 AM.
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12-07-2004, 06:19 AM
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Rub One Out
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hertfordshire, England, Earth, Solar System
Vehicle: 2002 Seat Ibiza Ranking: Master Orgasmo Wearing: The Hoff Thong Likes: Chocolate Cakes and Unicorns
Posts: 1,011
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You'll get an error, everything but one subkey will have been deleted. Then highlight all the reg values in Winlogon and delete them.
What reg files do you delete? i dont see any
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12-07-2004, 08:39 AM
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#38
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2004
Vehicle: 2006 Impreza WRX Limited
Posts: 1,142
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If you don't see any reg values or keys under winlogon then you're fine. Now run the reg import file.
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12-08-2004, 04:17 AM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 131
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Hello!
ATM I'm burning an Nlited XP with minLogon and EWF.. I'll tell you guys how it goes, and if it's good, I'll write up a short guide..  |
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12-08-2004, 06:27 AM
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FLAC
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: On the edge!
Vehicle: 1999 Nissan 200sx S14a (280bhp)
Posts: 1,766
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Has anybody tried Talisman windows skinning software, that has an automated shell switcher...
Looks quite neat too.
John
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12-08-2004, 09:30 AM
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#41
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 505
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FetLyd. How did you manage to put EWF and minlogon into the nLite ISO?
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12-08-2004, 04:22 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NH
Vehicle: 2005 Toyota Tacoma
Posts: 1,173
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For those of you who are looking to do this, I've done it and the results we're F***ING awesome.
nLite'd XP pro (down to 700mb) (w/Sp2)
Installed the on my laptop (newly formatted)
Installed bootvis, ran it 4 times (windows needs a few times restarted to optimize itself)
My boot times were 28-32 seconds
Installed, Minlogon
Ran BootVis
My startup times are between 16-22 seconds...
I havent optimized the drive, I haven't taken down any of the services yet or even reduced the size of Xp's foot print.
I purely just wanted to see what all this was about, it is definatly worth it. I can't wait to disable iExplore.exe and embed my GUI.
Thanks guys for the indepth instructions, everyone else planning on doing this it took me a night (2 hours to research and read up about this and 2 hours to complete it, building XP-installingXP-Re-Config using Minlogon)
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512MB RAM
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nLite WinXP pro on
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Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net
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12-08-2004, 06:44 PM
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Raw Wave
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Vehicle: 2004 Toyota 4Runner
Posts: 1,969
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I'm working on this right now too ... though I'm starting with a more stripped nLited XPSP2 image (~390MB installed). I'll do my testing in vmWare. Hopefully the combination of minLogin and EWF can give quick boots and allow me to avoid hibernation all together (Audigy NX doesn't like hibernation).
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12-08-2004, 07:11 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NH
Vehicle: 2005 Toyota Tacoma
Posts: 1,173
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I will also be adding the Enhanced Write Feature to my custom install, will post the pains and pleasures as well.
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Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
Via EPIA MII
512MB RAM
OEM GPS (embedded)
nLite WinXP pro on
1GB Extreme III CF card
Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net
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12-08-2004, 08:07 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1
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Hi,
I just wanted to confirm one thing.
Does it work with an already activated copy of XP, i.e. not the Corporate version?
Much appreciated,
nihilist
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