Does Winxp Boot Faster On Usb Hd/flash Drive? - Page 2

RoyN · 06-10-2005, 03:27 PM

Hahahaha amazing... about ready to close this thread me thinks but here is a summary:

People saying SEARCH NOOB: 7 (fluffy and elmo count as half each cause they were completely mean about it! ehehhe

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People against SEARCH NOOB: 3

Average posts/person for people that say SEARCH NOOB (in getting the avg, fluffy and elmos counts were halfed): 463 POSTS PER USER

Average posts/person for people against SEARCH NOOB: 40...F-O-R-T-Y

Conclusion: when you get some more forum time you will also see how it is more effective to search!

Conclusion 2: if I were at work I should be fired for losing 5 minutes in somethign as productive as this!

RoyN · 06-10-2005, 03:33 PM

Conclusion 3: if I factor myself in the SEARCH NOOB category, the average posts voting for SEARCH go upto 800/USER!!!! WOHOOOO! WOOOT!

Bugbyte · 06-10-2005, 04:00 PM

FAQ Emporium, number 5 under "Hardware"

RoyN · 06-10-2005, 04:06 PM

Quiet bugbyte!!!! If too many people find out where to find information for themselves less people will be asking stupid questions! and I'll have no use for my mathematical skills!

IntellaWorks · 06-10-2005, 04:51 PM

1. I'll apologize for all the long standing members here for being dinks to you, its quite possibly some are just having a bad day, however lately the same members seem to be having "bad days, everyday"

2. I havent read through most of the posts so forgive me if I repeat something

3. If your planning on booting a flash drive through USB 2.0 on a via system you can forget it, the via BIOS doesn't support it. However using flash media or solid state media does increase the speed of the boot process (depending on the type of flash media) , but not by much because typically you'll be going through the IDE bus which does have a bandwidth limit.

4. Read up a bit on Minlogon, EWF and nLite. I think that you might find some more clues as to what your looking for.

5. One more thing, when being run from a "removeable drive" Windows XP will not shut down properly (it will freeze) so your flash drive or solid state media device must be able to be set up as a "fixed disk". Which may not be possible on some flash media or solid state devices

6. You probably could have found these anwsers by searching but because the articles are lenghty and a bit combersome you might not have gotten the information back in such a compacted form which is why I took the time to get you started.

7. Good luck on the rest of your research and I hope that you are not discouraged by the initial feedback you recived here, beleive me these guys are all brillient in thier own ways and have a lot to offer to this community.

BMVEE · 06-11-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by IntellaWorks

1. I'll apologize for all the long standing members here for being dinks to you, its quite possibly some are just having a bad day, however lately the same members seem to be having "bad days, everyday"

Well spoken! The only stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked! While I understand that repetitive posts are frustrating, I sometimes like the "New" information that results from them. I happen to be interested in this topic, no so much however, that I am willing to search exhaustively for the info. Since someone brought it up... I thought I'd lurk and get some info.

Sometimes pointing to a post where the answer is located is helpful to someone who isn't adept at search query strings. Remember, there's always someone out there worse off than yourself!

End Wax.

PS... RoyN... funny stats

z0rz · 07-11-2005, 04:45 PM

Yeah RoyN I noticed that too. I wanted to find out about this too but it wasn't worth my time (atleast for today) and I felt the need to say "Spoon feed me" but because of my experience with forums from other sites I knew not to. Funny how my post count is low and I'm the "spoon feed me type".

Thanks BugByte for the info. I'll put this on my todo list to test out.

kungmpton · 07-18-2005, 06:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DarquePervert

I'm like your bitter old grandparent. You ask them what a word means and they point you toward the dictionary. It helps you learn and doesn't clutter the forum with n00bs asking the same questions over and over and over again.

And how would this help the neighbours son whos coming to ask same question ?

Punishing "n00b" asking a dumb question doesnt really stop next one asking it again does it ?) It is scary to ask anything in here ...

Also, searching results quite a lot of to read, if i try to find a solution for mu prob, RR is not updating mp3 screen when song changes, i get 448 results with "screen is not updating" ... Pain in the ***

mbkowns · 11-07-2005, 05:05 AM

jesus this long of a thread for that... just give the guy a thumbs up or down....

I haven't seen a good thread on this really people talk about numbers but what about boot times and differences between different cards cf / flash usb vs hard drives / sata raptors 10,000 rpm...

DarquePervert · 11-07-2005, 06:11 AM

The fact is, there is little, if any, performance increase, period. Sure a faster HDD with a large cache will lower boot times a bit. But then again, it'll improve the overall performance of the system, too.
That's been proven.

And I was able to glean that nugget of information by reading the other threads on this topic.

I think it sucks that n00bs aren't willing to do a little bit of research and reading and feel they need to have an answer tattooed on their palm for easy access on test day or some bull****.

pRoFiT · 11-07-2005, 09:14 AM

You guys are great!

What about usb 2.0 thats 480Mbps. The only advantage I see with removable is that you can take it inside and configure your system without taking out your whole carputer. That and better shock resistant.

RoyN · 11-07-2005, 09:22 AM

SFiorito was testing some USB disk on chip sort of things, that supposedly were much faster.... dont think he posted concrete results (he was having some issues getting the appropriate bios that recognized the faster usb boot media)

SFiorito · 11-07-2005, 05:05 PM

yeah, I got a 15 second cold boot (from the on switch to XP desktop) using the uDOC on a Lippert Thunderbird-MM. It's amazingly fast. But now with a new hack you can use any USB device (flash or external HDD) to boot XP. Take a look at my thread from last week with the link. I haven't tried it myself yet though. And there may be side effects due to USB devices appearing as removable (i.e., no ACPI for instance). Again, I haven't tried this yet.