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12-31-2004, 08:42 AM
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 11
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Not to be stupid but I tried dialing an AOL dial up access number and I did not get a "call cannot be completed as dialed message" I tried this from my cell phone for the sake of consistency.All that happened was a few beeps and then screeching like you get when somebody leaves their fax machine on auto receive.The message I got from Verizon was actually "we cannot complete your call at this time" and then it repeated that and then said "check the number and dial again".I may be stupid but if I push #777 or set the computer up to make a connection using #777 if the call cannot be completed how will it connect to the internet????
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12-31-2004, 11:08 AM
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#17
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: On the computer
Vehicle: 2003 Dodge 1500 QC Hemi
Posts: 70
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigToach
from what i hear the BlueTooth in verizons phones is crap. They put some of their own data signals in it so you have to buy their equipment or something like that. thats just what i heard though, i didnt actually read t anywhere
I have heard that also. That is one of the reasons I have not switched. It may be wishful thinking.
Thanks.
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01-01-2005, 04:55 PM
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#18
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle: 2003 Nissan Altima
Posts: 240
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigToach
from what i hear the BlueTooth in verizons phones is crap. They put some of their own data signals in it so you have to buy their equipment or something like that. thats just what i heard though, i didnt actually read t anywhere
Actually, I have the V710 and there are some problems with it. First off, it has great bluetooth, but only to a headset. However, when you try to connect to say, MPT 3.07, it will not connect via bluetooth. Also, when you try to connect to another phone, say a T610, it will not allow you to connect. The reason behind this, Verizon wanted crippled bluetooth so people could not transfer media onto the phone. However, as usual, people found a fix (like me), and just used the TF card to transfer media. But in the near future, there have been rumours that Verizon is going to uncripple the bluetooth, but we have to wait. There is one other solution, and that is that you can upgrade to SuperDavex's firmware release, but you take the chance of frying your phone. I'm just going to connect my phone everytime I get into my car, and dial up manually, instead of bluetooth. Well, for now at least!
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01-01-2005, 06:38 PM
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#19
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 11
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Well I ordered a cable(futuredial)from Radio Shack for $20 supposed to be in Tuesday.Curiosity got the better of me and I called Verizon to see what their answer was on using phone for internet access and talked to 2 people and got 2 DIFFERENT answers.The first one was they do not sell a cable for my phone(Thanks Radio Shack!!!)and that my plan does not entitle me to any national network access minutes and I needed a data plan to get internet service other than displaying VZW net on the phone.The second person I talked to told me I DO have national network minutes on my plan and they count against my total minutes during peak hours and unlimited offpeak-however it would only connect at 14.4 kbps not anything faster without a Data plan.When I questioned the fact that their website says that their internet data plan of 600 minutes per month combined entitled you national access at speeds up to 144kbps and his answer was that even though the access is EXACTLY the same it will connect slower if i do it myself without using a "mobile office kit" and a data plan.This sounds like BS to me any comments??? 
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01-01-2005, 07:01 PM
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#20
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: On the computer
Vehicle: 2003 Dodge 1500 QC Hemi
Posts: 70
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Quote: Originally Posted by KingsDude
Actually, I have the V710 and there are some problems with it. First off, it has great bluetooth, but only to a headset. However, when you try to connect to say, MPT 3.07, it will not connect via bluetooth. Also, when you try to connect to another phone, say a T610, it will not allow you to connect. The reason behind this, Verizon wanted crippled bluetooth so people could not transfer media onto the phone. However, as usual, people found a fix (like me), and just used the TF card to transfer media. But in the near future, there have been rumours that Verizon is going to uncripple the bluetooth, but we have to wait. There is one other solution, and that is that you can upgrade to SuperDavex's firmware release, but you take the chance of frying your phone. I'm just going to connect my phone everytime I get into my car, and dial up manually, instead of bluetooth. Well, for now at least!
I hope the rumors are true. Verizon is the only company, that I know of, that does this. They are big players, and they know it.
Are you using the Futuredial cable?
Thanks for the info!

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01-01-2005, 07:04 PM
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#21
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 131
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Don't buy a V710, stick with cingular if you want a cool phone with bluetooth. I'm a major hater of the V710 on HOFO, and I really really tried to contribute to making it better. It's just not a phone that will make a hard core computer user happy.
Everything VZW CS says is a lie. If you have a camera phone, you are already signed up for NAMOU, national access minutes only useage. I think they changed the name recently, but its the same. Your phone will connect when your computer makes the call to #777 and it will be a relatively high speed connection. The reason you can't DIAL #777 is because that's a data link, it just opens the phone up to the 1x network, not really dialing a number, just logs in.
IF YOU EVER DOUBT SOMETHING THAT CS SAYS, CALL BACK. Cant say that enough. If you get someone on a bad day, they will make your life hell. If you get someone who just got to work, and isn't all stressed out by teaching people how to text message and explaining that when you drop your phone in a toilet it won't work anymore, they will usually give you the good answers. If something isn't quite right, call back.
Dave
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01-01-2005, 07:55 PM
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#22
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Delta, BC
Posts: 18
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Sorry to steer off-topic a bit, but for those of you from Canada, does anyone know if Bell Mobility has a similar feature with their network? I know they have wireless data plans available, but they're ridiculous expensive.
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01-02-2005, 03:21 AM
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#23
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle: 2003 Nissan Altima
Posts: 240
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I forgot what cable I'm using, but I ordered it off of eBay. The V710 hasn't had much problems for me, in fact, I love it, except for the fact the camera sucks, and bluetooth is crippled. But I can't wait till I get my cable back so I can try this out.. Hmmmm.
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01-02-2005, 02:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle: 1996 Nissan Maxima
Posts: 289
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i just ordered a USB data cable off of ebay..... the auction had a link to futuredial so I assume this cable will work.
8 bucks shipped! I was goin to ge tthis anyways to get some mp3s on my fone, but now I just learned this...... thanks!!!!!
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01-02-2005, 03:03 PM
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#25
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 481
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i have a non-camera phone Vx4400. It shows 1x on my phone. Will this still work for me?
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01-02-2005, 03:12 PM
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#26
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Francisco
Vehicle: P.O.S. 1999 Ford Taurus
Posts: 240
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That is awesome, I had no idea....but now I am gonna be a web surfing/while driving maniac.
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01-02-2005, 04:40 PM
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#27
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle: 2003 Nissan Altima
Posts: 240
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So I finally got my cord back, and the Futredial drivers didn't work, so installed Mobile Phone Tools, and it automaticaly set me to connect to the internet. Although, I did change my username and password to what you guys said, but it still connected the same. It says I am getting 115.9 kbps, but I don't think I am. can anyone confirm what happens? When I get it connected, it displays how fast it connects and I can load up the internet, and itll go, but pretty slow.
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01-03-2005, 08:56 PM
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#28
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The Lavender Tie Just Made It Obvious
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bonita, CA (Hop, Skip, and a Jump from Tijuana, Mexico)
Vehicle: POS 1993 Mercury Sable (Fixed :( )
Posts: 3,069
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Hi all,
Just wanted to make something perfectly clear. National Access (Express Network) only comes included if you have an America's Choice plan, North America's Choice Plan, or a Single Rate Plan. It might work with the Local Choice plans, but it is defenitely not included with it.
Just thought I would clear that up for everyone.
Peace,
Rafster
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01-03-2005, 10:52 PM
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#29
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT
Posts: 68
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Quote: Originally Posted by NovaKane
That is awesome, I had no idea....but now I am gonna be a web surfing/while driving maniac.
Don't wreck.
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01-08-2005, 08:31 PM
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#30
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 131
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I use my cell connection all the time. It's not that slow at all. Remember, if you are used to a 3mb cable connection you aren't going to think that a 115 connect is fast. But it is a lot faster than a dialup at 56K, I've done side by sides on that.
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