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midiwall · 05-30-2007, 01:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgunefx

Dumb question probably, does the usb cable charge it or do I need to make a little regulator?

What cable did you buy? I bought one from a vendor on eBay that does _not_ charge (I'd taken a chance, the vendor didn't claim that it did), but the cable that Mologogo sells _does_ charge, but they don't say that it does.

shotgunefx · 05-30-2007, 04:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by midiwall

What cable did you buy? I bought one from a vendor on eBay that does _not_ charge (I'd taken a chance, the vendor didn't claim that it did), but the cable that Mologogo sells _does_ charge, but they don't say that it does.

This one.

From the looks of it, seems to need the regular charger in conjucture with it.

PURDooM · 05-30-2007, 09:10 AM

My first cable looked like that. For some reason, the most recent cable I purchased can charge right off of the USB port.

midiwall · 05-30-2007, 10:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgunefx

From the looks of it, seems to need the regular charger in conjucture with it.

Yeup.

Quote: Originally Posted by PURDooM

My first cable looked like that. For some reason, the most recent cable I purchased can charge right off of the USB port.

Yeup.

shotgunefx; drop another $15 and buy this one:

http://mologogo.myshopify.com/products/data-cable

turbocad6 · 05-30-2007, 01:18 PM

hey guys awsome thread, I've been following for a while now & I just ordered the i455 & an extra cable straight from mologogo.

did anyone notice the custom kit they did that is motion sensing & turns the phone on when movement is detected?, then turns it off when stopped... apparently when the phone powers on, it automaticly starts mologogo... now this is cool,

if we can find a mechanical way of sensing weather the phone is transmitting or not, then we could devise an auto restart sequence, so that the worries of interuption would be minimized.... I'm going to work on that when I get mine... it may be as simple as a pic that can sense the 1 min intervals of transmission by way of amperage draw increase.... if there is no spike in amperage draw in any 5 consecutive minutes it can restat the phone, making the getto lojack that much less getto

when I get mine I'll play with this, until seeing it & using it, it's hard to know if theres an easier way that this, maybe there is a light that comes on when transmitting? there has to be some way of checking if it's transmitting at intervals or not I would think... bugbytes 1 day restart is ok, but 1 day is a hell of a long time to wait if you want to track something now

I'm a big fan of verizons evdo, but with several cars & only 1 evdo account this seems to fill the gap nicely as a permanent install in each car for when the evdo happens to not be available to that car.... I'm hoping the connection is good enough to be able to remote into it with gotomypc, so I can remote start the car & stuff from the net... I see a few hacks to this phone in my near future

midiwall · 05-30-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

did anyone notice the custom kit they did that is motion sensing & turns the phone on when movement is detected?, then turns it off when stopped... apparently when the phone powers on, it automaticly starts mologogo... now this is cool

fwiw, the "run app at startup" is a feature of the i455. You can specify any Java app to run at startup.

Now, here's a bummer. Bugbyte posted up a hack (well, a work-around) to deal with an app getting interrupted when there's an incoming call. Basically, you just forward your phone to a non-existent number and you're set. No additional fees are incurred.

But, there's a problem... When the phone power's up, it stops and prompts you that "Forwarding on" and you have to hit a button to continue. The 2nd bummer is that this message kills the auto-start feature. Mologogo loads and initializes before the prompt, but seems to pause until AFTER you respond to the prompt.

Now, you may say... "No one will call me! I won't give out my number!". Yeup, I said that.... Then I started getting calls.

Seems that someone had my number before me and they have a bit of credit trouble - people are looking for them. Also, I've gotten nice greeting messages twice now from Boost. _ARGH_

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if there is no spike in amperage draw in any 5 consecutive minutes it can restart the phone...

The theory is good, but the additional current draw is VERY low. I think you'll be in the noise using a PIC as a detector.

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...maybe there is a light that comes on when transmitting? there has to be some way of checking if it's transmitting at intervals or not I would think.

No lights, no pixel change in the display to detect... You could build up a narrow bandpass filter and toss a detector on on it to look for the carrier firing up.

Remember also that Mologogo is a Java app... Not that source is available, but there's always the possibility of talking to those folks and seeing if they'll add some sort of an externally addressable flag.

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I'm hoping the connection is good enough to be able to remote into it with gotomypc, so I can remote start the car & stuff from the net...

The connection to the 'net is on demand from the PC side through DUN. You'll need something on the PC side to keep the connection alive and to report the IP address. ping and using something like the dyndns updater should work just fine. I wouldn't use just the dyndns updater itself on a short interval, they get kinda' PO'd when you do that - not that I would know.

turbocad6 · 05-30-2007, 01:57 PM

ok, so the phone startup sequence can be press power button, wait a predetermined amount of time, then press a button to aknowledge the msg. of forwarding... your saying that if the phone is on & transmitting to mologogo, the ONLY thing that can interupt it is an incoming call? is there any other toimes that this might just stop transmitting?

I'm going to use a beeper to activate my pc remotely & start it up, it can then connect to the net automaticly, these things are so cheap now, I think you can get beeper service for like $35 a year...... I was planning on doing this with my evdo anyway, then I'm going to use the fusion brain to control car starting, among other things.... wrong numbers will do no harm other than starting my pc for 15 minutes on the odd acation that should happen...

so the sequence will be call my car(beeper), then a few minutes later I can remote into it...

I guess the only problem remaining is a way to monitor & remedy a case of stop transmitting... can this happen even when calls are forwarded or is it pretty solid at that point?

midiwall · 05-30-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

...your saying that if the phone is on & transmitting to mologogo, the ONLY thing that can interrupt it is an incoming call? is there any other times that this might just stop transmitting?

I'm saying it's the only thing _I've_ seen... BugByte has hundreds of more hours using this setup than I think most anyone else in this thread. You'll want to hear from him.

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I guess the only problem remaining is a way to monitor & remedy a case of stop transmitting... can this happen even when calls are forwarded or is it pretty solid at that point?

Nope, once the app is running, then short of the battery dying (look like about 5 hours from what BugByte has seen with a 1 minute refresh interval, my mileage is varying), it's there. Forwarding looks like it's happening through signaling and it doesn't interrupt the Java app.

_I_ have a reboot issue though - the phone is rebooting when it's plugged into the PC. It happens 3-7 minutes after plugging it in and it NEVER spontaneously reboots if it's off the PC. At this point, I'm fairly sure it's not the _cable_ itself, and I'm pretty sure it's not common since I've never seen anyone else mention it.

I have a strange inkling it's the Windows USB enumerator. At the moment, my phone isn't fully "discovered" in Windows... I don't have the modem drivers installed. So it could just be the enumerator kicking the device once-in-a-while to see if it's alive.

Bugbyte · 05-30-2007, 02:33 PM

It's not solid on my end. The app has a tendency to 'hang' if it loses GPS fix or can't download data for awhile. Restarting it fixes the problem.

Bugbyte · 05-30-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by midiwall

Yeup.

Yeup.

shotgunefx; drop another $15 and buy this one:

http://mologogo.myshopify.com/products/data-cable

Same problem here - you're sure that data cable will also charge the phone if it's plugged into USB?

Right now, I have to use the cigarette charger AND the USB cable to power this beast in the car.

turbocad6 · 05-30-2007, 02:37 PM

ok, so I'm wondering if an hourly restart may even be the answer, so at any given time the absolute worse case is back on line is always less than an hour away, either that or a way to detect transmission, theres gotta be a way.... can't wait to get mine & play

midiwall · 05-30-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bugbyte

It's not solid on my end. The app has a tendency to 'hang' if it loses GPS fix or can't download data for awhile. Restarting it fixes the problem.

Hmmm... I wonder if that's actually what I'm seeing? I'll have to look closer.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bugbyte

Same problem here - you're sure that data cable will also charge the phone if it's plugged into USB?

112% sure. The first cable I got didn't. The phone would report "device attached" but the backlight stayed off, and the battery icon wasn't animated.

The Mologogo cable came out of the wrapper, into the phone, into the CarPC and ... animated icon, backlit display, phone says "charger connected" (or somesuch when powered off), etc.

See my post above though about loading up USB ports on our CarPCs. With a network adapter, bluetooth adapter, an OBDII interface, a keyboard and the i455, I've got a bit of a load going and had to move to a powered USB hub.

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

...can't wait to get mine & play

Neither can we.

shotgunefx · 05-30-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by midiwall

Yeup.

Yeup.

shotgunefx; drop another $15 and buy this one:

http://mologogo.myshopify.com/products/data-cable

Looks like my charger puts out 350ma @ 5.9v, think I'll just use an LM317T variable voltage regulator as I've got a few lying around and wire it to the cable. I've already got a project box in the trunk with some 12v regulators so space wise, no messier than it is.

I bet you could get by with 5v (I assume it must if the other cable is charging off usb)

midiwall · 05-30-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgunefx

Looks like my charger puts out 350ma @ 5.9v, think I'll just use an LM317T variable voltage regulator as I've got a few lying around and wire it to the cable. I've already got a project box in the trunk with some 12v regulators so space wise, no messier than it is.

Cool. Sounds like a plan!

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I bet you could get by with 5v (I assume it must if the other cable is charging off usb)

Yeup... That's what I'm feeding it and it'll come up to a full charge.

shotgunefx · 05-30-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by midiwall

Cool. Sounds like a plan!

Yeup... That's what I'm feeding it and it'll come up to a full charge.

Glad to hear it. Hopefully configuring this won't be too bad. I've still yet to see anyone say that they got it to work under Linux. I imagine at worst, it's adapting the OS-X script.

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