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08-25-2007, 04:28 PM
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Yea no problem. Let me know if there is a meet I'll be there and bring some buddies that have cars and truck installs. I'm the first to do a carputer or sorry truckputer  so everyone that i know don't really get it.  but I'm a hugh computer guy so it dosen't shock everyone that I'm doing it my truck.
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08-25-2007, 07:06 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by slinkytoy 
Yea no problem. Let me know if there is a meet I'll be there and bring some buddies that have cars and truck installs. I'm the first to do a carputer or sorry truckputer  so everyone that i know don't really get it.  but I'm a hugh computer guy so it dosen't shock everyone that I'm doing it my truck.
that's the best thing about the meet, just about everyone there has a system of some sort and they know the benefits and efforts!! I get so tired of having people tell me that their buddy has an alpine, kenwood, etc... it can do all this stuff... blah, blah... carputer trumps anything from Car Toys, etc...
I'll shoot you a message when I see there is going to be a meet... there is a thread over in the "meets" section.
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09-15-2007, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Aurora, Colorado
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work on the beast begins again Today! Finally......
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10-12-2007, 10:39 AM
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[QUOTE=mgithens;1110461]that's the best thing about the meet, just about everyone there has a system of some sort and they know the benefits and efforts!! I get so tired of having people tell me that their buddy has an alpine, kenwood, etc... it can do all this stuff... blah, blah... carputer trumps anything from Car Toys, etc... 
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I appriciate the idea of the in car computer, My question still remains "Can it do what high end Car Decks are designed to do?" produce exceptionaly clean sound. For the "gadget side of the in car expirence I think the "carputer" is excellent. Navigation, video and muisic storage and playback, phone interfacing nothing beats the feature capabilities of the carputer. But for those of us who require pure clean sound with out all the "hype" I feel the in car computer can not hold a torch to better high end car headunits. They can not produce the higher voltage signal outputs with a cleanly filtered signal.
This truck is my first attempt at building a system with an in car computer and even though we are using an excellent Alpine piece for processing I still have my doubts, but much like Slinkytoy has always trusted my knowledge about getting the sound right I trust him in getting the computer right. I guess from there only time will tell.
I guess my point to this is do not know what your friends say about their "Store" bought head units as they may do somethings your computer can not.
Bryan
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10-12-2007, 10:43 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by groundpounder 
Quote: Originally Posted by mgithens 
that's the best thing about the meet, just about everyone there has a system of some sort and they know the benefits and efforts!! I get so tired of having people tell me that their buddy has an alpine, kenwood, etc... it can do all this stuff... blah, blah... carputer trumps anything from Car Toys, etc... 
I appriciate the idea of the in car computer, My question still remains "Can it do what high end Car Decks are designed to do?" produce exceptionaly clean sound. For the "gadget side of the in car expirence I think the "carputer" is excellent. Navigation, video and muisic storage and playback, phone interfacing nothing beats the feature capabilities of the carputer. But for those of us who require pure clean sound with out all the "hype" I feel the in car computer can not hold a torch to better high end car headunits. They can not produce the higher voltage signal outputs with a cleanly filtered signal.
This truck is my first attempt at building a system with an in car computer and even though we are using an excellent Alpine piece for processing I still have my doubts, but much like Slinkytoy has always trusted my knowledge about getting the sound right I trust him in getting the computer right. I guess from there only time will tell.
I guess my point to this is do not know what your friends say about their "Store" bought head units as they may do somethings your computer can not.
Bryan
Uh oh. . .
lol You can get all the sound quality you need out of a carputer. There are a few people that compete on here with just software base equalizers.
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10-12-2007, 11:11 AM
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groundpounder, I suggest you show up at a meet and take a listen for yourself. I would venture to say that you could get 100% of the audio fidelity from a computer that you get from a head unit. There are REALLY high end audio systems for computers - remember that what you are listening to was mixed on a computer. The producers would expect more quality than you could possibly ever want/need/afford in the car environment. As a great starting point, look into the highest offerings from Sound Blaster, Turtle Beach, etc - so figure at least a couple hundred and you get a high end SoundBlaster. You'll need to focus on voltage quality, just as you would for a car stereo. Cable quality... and without question you will need to remove the "headphone" jacks and replace them with RCAs - road vibration and headphone jacks really don't cut it - I can only imagine how bad 140db+ of bass and headphone jacks can be.
Which leads me to one of my points that I have always had issue with... in the car environment you need about 1/2 the quality you need on a home system. This is why MP3 is such a viable format for the car. Sure in a parked car with the engine off you will hear the weakness of the MP3 codec, so obviously any compression would be the first thing to go before spending megabucks on a sound card. I just upgraded to a much higher quality sound card and at 70mph I cannot tell the difference. XM radio is fine for 99.9% of the users and the compression is TERRIBLE.
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10-21-2007, 12:22 AM
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Location: Colorado
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mgithens. Your right on the sound quailty half as much that you need for the home. But this is were it's a pain in the butt for me becasue of the fact that i do nothing but high end home and commercial Audio and video. My problem is that there are times that i get car and home mixed up there are things in car audio that i wish i could do in home and there are things in home audio i wish i could do in car. I have a very weird what i call "sound ear" i pick up on sounds that some people can't hear or i have to back up the track and point out the sound that i want them to listen for. Groundpounder is all over car audio and i can't tell you how many times that i have been told to SHUTUP from him becasue i try to pull off some home audio things that i do and i want it in the truck. It's too funny at times. Example--I'm a HUGH mid bass guy I mean HUGH and he is telling me that the mid bass drivers that we are using will be enough and I'm thinking NO i want more. It's the home thing taken over bigger room more drivers, more drivers more control thats my thinking. Well this isen't a house so get over it. LOL thats what i get and i move on. I have been wanting to do this in the truck for a while now becasue there is NO deck on the market that does what i want to do and i want to do a lot. LOL I've been building and working on computers for over 20 years now and i think that the new micro and mini boards that are out are great and the power supply's that are being made are just amazing for the 12 volt world. So it's only natural that the computer world meets the 12 volt world. You need to have a good sound processor between your computer and your amps that is no question about that. Going right from your computer to an amp is not going to give you the good sound. Done right and some time and thought put into a good computer system will give you the great sound that you are looking for and you will be happy just my thought on it. So we got the security in the truck today it's a clifford-
http://clifford.com/Products/Product.aspx?ProductID=719
works good and has a lot of stuff on it. Things are moving forward and here in the next few weeks we will have music.  Full system specs and pix are to come.
Last edited by slinkytoy; 10-21-2007 at 12:30 AM.
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10-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Amp rack molding started
Started the amp rack today. This is a picture of the rack covered with cloth so we can put resin on it and do some bondo work on it. If you look to the right you will see a hole in the carpet thats were the sub is located. Pictures on that bigboy are to follow.  The amps that I'm using are ARC Audio amps.
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11-05-2007, 07:31 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Got my front door panels in today. Slow but sure things are starting to come together. I need tunes or I'm going to DIE!!!!!!!
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11-06-2007, 12:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Iowa
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any progress on the amp rack? nice amp choice btw
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11-06-2007, 10:58 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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I got the amp rack all resin so this weekend I'll get some bondo on it and sand the hell out of it. Maybe have some tunes in teh next couple of weeks.
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11-11-2007, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Center Dash/Console Work
We got the dash ready for paint and the center console that goes between the front seats all glassed up to hold the 8 inch monitor,Alpine PXA-H701 and a sony mini DVD burner/player.
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11-27-2007, 12:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Dash And Mouse console painted
AH yea got the dash painted installed the 10.4 monitor. Also got the Mouse touch pad bondo done into the top of the center console. The mouse pad was taken apart and installed into the console. Turned out much better then i thought it would. Looks just like it was made to go there.
Last edited by slinkytoy; 11-27-2007 at 12:29 AM.
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11-27-2007, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Springfield VA
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very nice work! What are the details on that mouse? I could really use something like that!
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11-27-2007, 12:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Thanks. I also painted the mouse touch buttons they were white.  My buddy helping on this really made it look good. It turned out much better then i thought it would. Here is a link to the mouse info:
http://www.cirque.com/cpages/?page=23
They have different types to choose from. It's was kind of a pain in the **S to get it apart but you just have to be carefull with them. In fact i bought 2 of them  Go on ebay that were i got these 2 from i spent about 19.00 for each.
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