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Old 09-18-2008, 10:21 PM   #31
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From everything i have heard, the seek times are cut drastically for a SSD drive than for a standard hard drive. They are a bunch more expensive, but i think you are on to something with the os on a SSD and the music on a standard drive, maybe some rubber bushings for shock absorbtion? (?sp)
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From everything i have heard, the seek times are cut drastically for a SSD drive than for a standard hard drive. They are a bunch more expensive, but i think you are on to something with the os on a SSD and the music on a standard drive, maybe some rubber bushings for shock absorbtion? (?sp)

I agree. I've read that SSDs are much faster, but that they are limited to a certain (pretty large) number of writes. One of the good things about putting the OS on an SSD is that it doesn't experience a lot of writes, especially if the pagefile is moved to the hard drive.

SSDs are a lot lighter, too. But, on a Durango, I guess that isn't much of a factor, is it?
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Howdy Jack,

Whats up been a while If you don't remember from the last time we met up I actually have an Mtron SSD that I keep my OS on. The read and boot time on an good quality SSD (like my Mtron) is MUCH MUCH faster than non SSD drive.

Also with current-generation SSDs, such as those by MTRON have no read cycle limits, and a write life cycle of 140 YEARS. (You read that correctly). 140 years @5GB per day.

But they are also much more expensive than you normal hard drives if you plan on picking up a SSD I'd suggest you get one from dvnation.com.

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I agree. I've read that SSDs are much faster, but that they are limited to a certain (pretty large) number of writes. One of the good things about putting the OS on an SSD is that it doesn't experience a lot of writes, especially if the pagefile is moved to the hard drive.

SSDs are a lot lighter, too. But, on a Durango, I guess that isn't much of a factor, is it?

lol, no weight is not a factor.... the new center console is about 2 plus pounds, lol.
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Howdy Jack,

Whats up been a while If you don't remember from the last time we met up I actually have an Mtron SSD that I keep my OS on. The read and boot time on an good quality SSD (like my Mtron) is MUCH MUCH faster than non SSD drive.

Also with current-generation SSDs, such as those by MTRON have no read cycle limits, and a write life cycle of 140 YEARS. (You read that correctly). 140 years @5GB per day.

But they are also much more expensive than you normal hard drives if you plan on picking up a SSD I'd suggest you get one from dvnation.com.


LOL, i can never forget you..... Well Im going to check the site out. See whats up with them. In the end i may just wait a bit.

On another note. What is the best software i should use to create a image of my PC? If the HDD does die, I dont want to have to reinstall each thing at a time. Also if I do upgrade to a SSD will I be able to simply use the image disk and install the OS and everything else, that way? Where would programs go, like CF, on the SSD also?
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Hi Jack,

For imaging I like Ghost (old school) or Shadowprotect (really fast). Yep you can simply make an image of your existing PC and drop it on an SSD should you want to upgrade.

If you upgrade to SSD I recommend you install your OS and programs on an SSD and data (movies, music etc) on a seperate Non SSD drive. Unless prices fall enough that a really large SSD is a reasonable option.

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Just picked up a 3g iPhone and tethering it to CarPC its crazy fast.

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Hi Jack,

For imaging I like Ghost (old school) or Shadowprotect (really fast). Yep you can simply make an image of your existing PC and drop it on an SSD should you want to upgrade.

If you upgrade to SSD I recommend you install your OS and programs on an SSD and data (movies, music etc) on a seperate Non SSD drive. Unless prices fall enough that a really large SSD is a reasonable option.

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Just picked up a 3g iPhone and tethering it to CarPC its crazy fast.

Check out this post for more info
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Thats the route I will go, use ghost or Shadowprotect. I have Ghost but have always had issues with it. So i'll try the later. As far as iPhone is concerned, I am a HTC fan, im looking to upgrade to the new HTC Touch Pro when it comes out in octber. It has a 528 mhz processor and impressive Ram and Rom, and best of all it works on Sprint's uber fast EVDO Rev A. network. I have never tethered my phones though since the car has its own aircard. From my understanding is that if some1 calls, internet will drop then resume once the caller hangs up. I didnt like the idea of that so i bought the aircard. i would hate to be watching TV and slingbox disconnects because of a retarded phone call.
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sounds awesome Hijack, want pictures!
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I decided to pull out my emergency cut up dash that I bought to test how I would mount the screen. I bought the Dakota version thinking it was the same, well it isnt. I fit the screen onto it and installed it in the car, but the A/C controls wouldnt fit since mine has more controls and the Dakota obviously doesnt have them. So I sucked up my fear and cut into the original. I did pretty good since I knew what I was going to do from practicing on the first one. Pix are below. Im going to start a thread in the fabrication area to get ideas on how to tackle this.

In these pics you see were I made the cuts. You can see the original hole was larger. I going to have to fill in those gaps.



Here are pictures from the front and top.



Here are pictures from the left and right.

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Old 10-19-2008, 02:29 PM   #40
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Finally have it installed!

Ok I finally decided to install the console to see how it looks. Here are the pix.





Here is the pix of the airholes. The front will not get any grills since it is so recessed and you cant really see it. The back will get 2 silver grills.



Here is the front with the 10.2 rear view screen. Attached to it is a smaller screen which displays the front and rear parking sensors, so I dont hit things.
Also here is a view from the back.



Only thing left is the front dash. Install of the X-Fi soundcard. Install of the 7.1 cables. Install of the 3rd row amp. Install of the rear 3rd row speakers. Install of new rear cam. Install of side cams. Then install of QP auto switch mod. Then I should be done.

This console was discountinued.
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Finally got my X-Fi card, but something happened to the MoBo. It no longer turns on. Not even the BIOS POST screen will come up. Finally when my install starts to come to its end, something bad like this has to happen. I am hoping it is covered by warranty and either IEI or LogicSupply will replace it. I have tried it in the car, and on my work bench. Everything seems to power up.... HDD, USB Hubs, but the screen is just black. Now I have pulled everything out of the car (MoBo, PSU, and its fans) and now im am trouble shooting that. THIS REALLY SUCKS!
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If everything seems to power up, it may be something in the video component only. Try installing a separate video card in your PCI slot.
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If everything seems to power up, it may be something in the video component only. Try installing a separate video card in your PCI slot.

Yea, i could try that.... but in the end i would still have to have the MoBo repaired. I didnt buy a nice soundcard to have it x'ed out to add a feature the board should do. I will try it though, if i still get nothing what then? I am not experienced, but what happens if the processor were to fail, i would at least get the post screen but saying there is no processor? Same with RAM, I would get an error that there is no RAM? I am so depressed now. If it does turn out that the GPU has gone bad, that kind of troubles me, because it makes me wonder if its my complicated setup that caused the issues.
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I agree that you'd need it repaired, no matter what. No signal at all to the screen sounds dire. Are you getting any beep codes from it? They can help direct you to problems. Just beep codes and you'll find a list of them for your BIOS.

In many of the motherboard failures we've seen, the problem has been heat, generally from inadequate airflow in some area of the board. The more we ask of components, the more heat they produce, and we need to get it away from them. There's no such thing as too big a fan, but high volume airflows frequently produce unacceptable sound levels, too; seems to me we were discussing that in one of your threads.

When this failure is fixed, check the airflow through your new console and be sure it gets to everything.

Have you checked the manufacturer's website for troubleshooting tips? If they have a FAQ, search for "no video" and see what you find.
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I guess I will try that, but I built this new case specifically for air flow. Which is the reason it has a 2 tier design. To large fans blow air in, and circulate the air in the chamber, which is where the processor fan blows its hot air into. Then there is a long chamber which houses the PSU with 2 fans at the end, which pull the air out of the chamber. Also as a note, I have been driving with the case lid off since it wasnt built yet. I did make a mod for the MoBo which could have caused it death. The GPU is right next to the processor and it ran very hot, so I had a fan on the GPU and a seperate one for the processor. It caused the GPU to run at very low temps compared to when i bought it.
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